Does Lincecum need a rest?

[The Edge]

24/7 here Buddy!

That little calculator they put in a computer is great. I was thinking after I posted the above info 'dang I should have went off of Lincecums career babip' but I just checked and it is .301

[astrosfanatic]

^^^^Baseball-Reference shows it at .301.....hmmmm, i wonder if this is due to different formulas?? i know Fangraphs and BB-R use different formulas to calculate WAR....

[astrosfanatic]

Ok, i checked it out and BB-R and Wikipedia both define BABIP as: ed893b7b0405147c8498db6096fce17e.png


I couldnt find the formula that Fangraphs uses, but i have to imagine it is the same....

[Old Sweater]

.05 is about the same. Still just a difference of perhaps 3 hits for the 2012 season.

BR and Fangraphs may tweak the main formula a bit different???

[RickD]

Lincecum is 2-8 with a 6.19 ERA, the worst among all qualifying starters in baseball. The Giants are 10 games below .500 (2-12) when Lincecum pitches, 16 above .500 (36-20) when anyone else starts.

Batters are hitting .265 off him, the highest mark of his career, and the .812 OPS (on-base-plus-slugging percentage) is 128 points higher than his worst season.

Lincecum not only is winless since April 28, but the Giants have lost his last nine starts. He has yielded four or more runs in 10 of his 14 starts, lasting more than seven innings once.

Will Lincecum right the ship or this the beginning of the end of his career. ?

[Chitown Champ]

He's been giving up more homers and hits, but compared to the rest of the pitchers in the league, it shouldn't bump his ERA by that much. I still think there's a ton of bad luck behind the numbers. His strand rate is 15% below career norms and his BABIP against is still sky high. If he can stop walking so many hitters than his season may turn around. I don't believe this to derail his career just yet.

[Old Sweater]

He's been giving up more homers and hits, but compared to the rest of the pitchers in the league, it shouldn't bump his ERA by that much. I still think there's a ton of bad luck behind the numbers. His strand rate is 15% below career norms and his BABIP against is still sky high. If he can stop walking so many hitters than his season may turn around. I don't believe this to derail his career just yet.

With all the walks I can see the better strand rate, Lincecum has a lot more opportunities to strand runners. And the babip is just a matter of 3 or 4 hits this season.

Guy needs to get back on track.

[Chitown Champ]

With all the walks I can see the better strand rate, Lincecum has a lot more opportunities to strand runners. And the babip is just a matter of 3 or 4 hits this season.

Guy needs to get back on track.

I already did the calculations. The BABIP is a matter of close to 10 hits. Calculations are at the first page of this thread.
Sometimes, 10 well-placed hits can mean 8 runs or so. Lincecum has also given up home runs at a higher rate this year so that also contributes to an immense amount of earned runs considering how many base runners he has allowed this year.

[Old Sweater]

I already did the calculations. The BABIP is a matter of close to 10 hits. Calculations are at the first page of this thread.
Sometimes, 10 well-placed hits can mean 8 runs or so. Lincecum has also given up home runs at a higher rate this year so that also contributes to an immense amount of earned runs considering how many base runners he has allowed this year.

Seems we have conflicting calulations. I also have the math somewhere in this thread.

[Chitown Champ]

Seems we have conflicting calulations. I also have the math somewhere in this thread.

Yes and I corrected them. You're supposed to divide the hits by the BABIP not multiply in order to cancel out units to get batters faced. Then multiply by the different BABIPs to get the differences in hits amongst the different BABIP values in question of comparison.