Who am I?

[soberdennis]

I believe that's the "King of the Spitball"...Burleigh Grimes.-BH

You beat me to it again, Bob. That is Ol' Stubblebeard.

[BobH]

Another of the old great chunkers....-BH

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTtq3Y7wQW9oXsTH1etAjMpFUEH6G6ZZ UeJuqDxCxrUIBWjP2NnRw

[soberdennis]

You beat me to it again, Bob. It is Ol' Stubblebeard.

[yankeebiscuitfan]

Yep. The last pitcher that was allowed to use the spitball.

Your turn.

[soberdennis]

Another of the old great chunkers....-BH

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTtq3Y7wQW9oXsTH1etAjMpFUEH6G6ZZ UeJuqDxCxrUIBWjP2NnRw

That's the Miner-Mordecai "three Finger" Brown.

[soberdennis]

How about this guy-who was better known in different attire?
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[BobH]

Could it be Connie Mack?....-BH

[BobH]

That's the Miner-Mordecai "three Finger" Brown.

Yep....that's the guy...-BH

...here's the famous three-fingered hand..

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRJHAK0AkpnQ1mWEiGS6ADmhvBCbm-KQajwrKJMxSs8Ire2_uzS

[yankeebiscuitfan]

On top of the photo there is written Rickey. So I guess it is Branch Rickey.

[soberdennis]

On top of the photo there is written Rickey. So I guess it is Branch Rickey.
I didn't even see the name written on top there or I would have looked for a different pic. Yes it is the Mahatma.

[yankeebiscuitfan]

I didn't even see the name written on top there or I would have looked for a different pic. Yes it is the Mahatma.

I kinda cheated. Why don't you take another shot?

[soberdennis]

Ok. How about this guy who is in the HOF.
1703

[BobH]

I think that's the Babe's fave Yankee....Miller Huggins..:biggrin:-BH

[soberdennis]

yep. It was proof that mighty things can come in small packages. That was taken in 1904 when he was still playing.

[BobH]

OK, we have yet another HoF man.....-BH

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ5NtQ7d6eDYffctfPa777coDksmXRtv 08jSK6H80JTvR85KY5RlA

[yankeebiscuitfan]

Pie Traynor

[BobH]

Correct....I just noticed his name at the top of the pic...oh well....you're up, biscuit.-BH

[yankeebiscuitfan]

Sorry for the delay.

Off we go again.

Who is this guy?

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[soberdennis]

That looks like it could be Bucketfoot Al Simmons.

[BobH]

That's ol' Bucketfoot.....the A's Al Simmons.-BH

[soberdennis]

How about this guy-in a uniform you might not be accustomed to seeing him in.
1728

[yankeebiscuitfan]

Yep. You are right. That is Al Simmons.

[yankeebiscuitfan]

If that is not Yogi Berra, it is definitely his brother.

[soberdennis]

If that is not Yogi Berra, it is definitely his brother.

Actually I think that is Yogi. It wasn't the picture I was looking for. My mistake. I will hold off on the one I was looking for.

[yankeebiscuitfan]

Who is this HOF manager?

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[Old Sweater]

Who is this HOF manager?

1731

I won't say who it is since I had to use my cheater but he only managed like 4 or 5 years and made the HOF as a player.

[soberdennis]

Just a guess-Buck Ewing?

[yankeebiscuitfan]

No. It isn't Buch Ewing.

[soberdennis]

I am still just guessing-King Kelly

[yankeebiscuitfan]

I am still just guessing-King Kelly

Try again.

[soberdennis]

This time I found the picture in a way other than how I normally find it. Jim O'Rourke

[yankeebiscuitfan]

Yep. You're right.

Your turn.

[soberdennis]

Okay. Here is the one I wanted to do earlier, but had the wrong picture.
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[Old Sweater]

^ Is that Gil McDougald?

[BobH]

Leo Durocher...one of Babe's favorite guys...-BH

[soberdennis]

Bob is right again. It is the Lip, who played briefly for the Murderer's row Yankees before becoming a regular for another pretty good team-The Gashouse Gang. Of course he is best known as a manager and that is what got him into Cooperstown.
Here is a pic of Durocher with Fred Gwynn on the TV show The Munsters when Herman was given a tryout with the Dodgers.1736

[BobH]

OK...the next HoFer....-BH

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQFOpUqS7Ut9SDxVMm7nuH-RTIyyCXolcdTTJWshlv9quAIEzfD

[Old Sweater]

Ha, I saw that Munster episode.

[yankeebiscuitfan]

OK...the next HoFer....-BH

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQFOpUqS7Ut9SDxVMm7nuH-RTIyyCXolcdTTJWshlv9quAIEzfD
Obviously, he wasn't allowed to smile on this photo.

[BobH]

Nobody knows this guy??-BH

[yankeebiscuitfan]

Nobody knows this guy??-BH

I haven't had the time to check this out yet.

[yankeebiscuitfan]

I am pretty sure it is Eddy Matthews.

[BobH]

That's right, biscuit....from his rookie year in Boston. You're up.-BH

[yankeebiscuitfan]

Hall of famer again:

1740

[BobH]

Hall of famer again:

1740Pitcher John Clarkson-BH

[soberdennis]

That's Clarkson, all right.

[yankeebiscuitfan]

Your turn BH

[BobH]

OK folks...here's another from the hall...-BH

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT6na3b_6VNNRFTU-smQxa9H0UeCL2w95qzD07Ww226KgFnJmNcXQ

[yankeebiscuitfan]

When I look to the shape of his head, I'd say this is Chick Gandil. But since he is not a hall of famer, that is impossible.

[yankeebiscuitfan]

When I look to the shape of his head, I'd say this is Chick Gandil. But since he is not a hall of famer, that is impossible.

Errrrr.

This is Roger Hornsby

[BobH]

Got it, biscuit...that's Roger...Your turn...-BH

[yankeebiscuitfan]

Who is this HOF-er?

1748

[BobH]

He looks an awfully lot like Pinky Higgins but, although a very good ballplayer, Pinky has never made the Hall.-BH

[soberdennis]

I'm thinking Bobby Doerr. but that is just an educated guess.

[yankeebiscuitfan]

No it is not Bobby Doerr.

This HOF-er spend 17 seasons in the Majors playing for Detroit, St. Louis (AL), Washington, Boston (AL), Brooklyn and Pittsburgh.

After his playing career he served as a coach for the Senators for a couple of years.

[BobH]

Heinie Manush...-BH

[yankeebiscuitfan]

Bingo Bob.

Your turn.

[BobH]

Again from the Hall...

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSTQgm4KHfJzXO4uefbr8in-dkO2Fp_VFsc-shSRqKxkViOT4AC

[yankeebiscuitfan]

Did he enter the hall as an Athletic?

[Old Sweater]

I post a lot of these guys pictures in the Bill James thread and still draw blanks most of the time.

[BobH]

Did he enter the hall as an Athletic?

I'm not dodging the question biscuit but that's hard to say. Our boy broke in with the A's, spent 4 years there, and moved to his next team where he spent the longest part of his career. In a 15 year career he was with 5 different teams...all in the AL. He was a 10 time all-star and had a life-time BA of .306...twice hitting in the .340s range and winning a batting title one year.-BH

[yankeebiscuitfan]

But did he enter the HOF as an Athletic?

[BobH]

But did he enter the HOF as an Athletic?

No he did not.-BH

[yankeebiscuitfan]

What position did he play?

[BobH]

What position did he play?

Almost 1700 games at 3rd base. Less than 100 games anywhere else.-BH

[BobH]

Here's another pic of the same guy...

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ8TRQtJcn1-nkA5ECcnzBPVr35sMaO0V45vTrsvBmpcpXaoinx

and yet another....-BH

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQSu_HhMcVU8NfwOxdfN4HF2mnD0-MSK2uP9PMsYLiZY32CImp9

[yankeebiscuitfan]

Wow. This was a tough one.

It's George Kell.

[soberdennis]

I only read the latter part of your dialogue and did not look at the original picture. But I recognized Kell. Good job.

[BobH]

George Kell is correct....you're up, ybf..-BH

[yankeebiscuitfan]

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Who is this Hall of Famer?

[BobH]

Believe we've done this one, biscuit. He's right at the bottom of page 15 and top of pg. 16...-BH

[yankeebiscuitfan]

Believe we've done this one, biscuit. He's right at the bottom of page 15 and top of pg. 16...-BH

Darn!!! You're right.

We're running out of Hall of Famers.... ;)

I have to find another one.

[yankeebiscuitfan]

Alright who is this guy?

1761

[BobH]

King Kelly.-BH

[yankeebiscuitfan]

King Kelly.-BH

Your turn BH.

[BobH]

OK....here's another one from the Hall....-BH

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTtGAWq_iYTHzrzU9ZDAC9Sj-qLdar5BWoUJw0_2uCRM8NoZwvEGQ

[yankeebiscuitfan]

Is there a bigger photo available? His face is hard to see.

[BobH]

Does this one help?.....-BH

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSmbuHfVvZydVbC46hTeniktST0huB10 yGnwN4SmE2JnEFzxDcU

[soberdennis]

that looks like either Simmons or Ott. I'll go with Al Simmons.

[yankeebiscuitfan]

that looks like either Simmons or Ott. I'll go with Al Simmons.

Al Simmons has been posted already.

You helped me a lot... It is Mel Ott.

[BobH]

Yes....it's Ott. I believe Simmons hit right-handed, sober. You're up, ybf.-BH

[Old Sweater]

First player I remember doing the leg lift was Dick McAuliffe with the Tigers.

http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/1190/dickmca1a.jpg

Really liked McAuliffe.

Wake up Biscuit!

[yankeebiscuitfan]

OK OS. I am awake.

Who is this? Shown is a very young edition of this Hall of Famer.

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I have cropped the photo a bit, otherwise the letter on his cap would betray who it is.

[BobH]

Yeah...later he sported a 'stache...-BH

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRvH93737dOUZygtWo2YEMRNjxsgDebD 65sw3sJJaXCrj2mPGAG

[Old Sweater]

I like that young picture of him. That is the great Robin Yount.

Who is this HOF owner?

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd280/OldSweater/CharlesComiskey250.jpg

[yankeebiscuitfan]

Charles Comiskey

[Old Sweater]

Yep. You or Bob is up to bat since I sorta took Bob's place.

[yankeebiscuitfan]

I'll give Bob the honour.

[BobH]

Sorry boys...sleepin' on the job, I guess....here's another one for you...-BH

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTJSy-y7uxAJqbfBVkJ7gNT4be-CGR8ZtH5i47x1YHHVDdSaj15

[soberdennis]

Early Wynn?

[BobH]

Wow!!....that one was short-lived...you da man, dennis...:wink:-BH

[Old Sweater]

Wow, Sober nailed that one. There is two 300 game winners in MLB history and Wynn is one of them.< that will get ya a beverage of choice.

[BobH]

Wow, Sober nailed that one. There is two 300 game winners in MLB history and Wynn is one of them.< that will get ya a beverage of choice.

...right....and the other would be one Robert Moses Grove...:wink:-BH

[soberdennis]

How about this guy who spent much of his career in the shadow of two hall of famers?
1777

[yankeebiscuitfan]

Claude Osteen.

[soberdennis]

Claude Osteen.
Yep that is Osteen.

[BobH]

Sober, just a word of notice...I just dragged my cursor over the picture and ClaudeOsteen.jpg popped up. You might want to consider a different method of posting your pics. That doesn't happen on all your pics but has on a couple of them.-BH

[yankeebiscuitfan]

Sober, just a word of notice...I just dragged my cursor over the picture and ClaudeOsteen.jpg popped up. You might want to consider a different method of posting your pics. That doesn't happen on all your pics but has on a couple of them.-BH

OS saved a couple in that way too. I always save them on my pc as "who am I".

[yankeebiscuitfan]

Alright. Who is this HOF-er, who got inducted as a manager, not as a player?

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[BobH]

That looks like a young Dick Williams...-BH

[Old Sweater]

OS saved a couple in that way too. I always save them on my pc as "who am I".

Just a oversight on by part.

[Old Sweater]

Alright. Who is this HOF-er, who got inducted as a manager, not as a player?

1779


That looks like a young Dick Williams...-BH

It does to me also. That is Dick Williams picture at BR.

[soberdennis]

Sober, just a word of notice...I just dragged my cursor over the picture and ClaudeOsteen.jpg popped up. You might want to consider a different method of posting your pics. That doesn't happen on all your pics but has on a couple of them.-BH

Thanks for the headsup.

[BobH]

Here's another one....-BH

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR6kHOaT9NouG7d97Dlm_-3rMJ9Kb9FnQXoVHDVbnltjpTont12

[soberdennis]

Nellie Fox?

[BobH]

Nellie Fox?

Nope...not Nellie.-BH

[soberdennis]

Another glance tells me I was on the wrong side of the infield. It was the other one of Bill Veeck's martians-Luis Aparicio.

[BobH]

That's right, sd...Llittle Louie.-BH

[soberdennis]

Who is this world series hero?
1791

[BobH]

I think I know this....was his rep as a WS hero earned by hitting .545 in one of his WS?....and then he became the goat in his next one.-BH

[soberdennis]

I think I know this....was his rep as a WS hero earned by hitting .545 in one of his WS?....and then he became the goat in his next one.-BH

he did have a great WS with a bat, even though I don't think his average was that high.
Actually, I know who you are thinking of. No it is not him.

[BobH]

Not Hank Gowdy in the 1914 WS?...Is the guy a Hall of Famer?-BH

[soberdennis]

Not Hank Gowdy in the 1914 WS?...Is the guy a Hall of Famer?-BH

No. BTW, that is not a Braves uniform.

[BobH]

I don't believe it's a Red Sox uni either. Would this be a Federal League uni?-BH

[soberdennis]

No There is one other team that had a B on its hat, though.

[BobH]

Just a guess....Jake Daubert?-BH

[soberdennis]

Just a guess....Jake Daubert?-BH

No. not Daubert.
Hint-Even though he did play in a WS for the team pictured, he is best known for his exploits for a different team.

[BobH]

I guess it took me long enough....Jack Coombs-BH

[soberdennis]

I guess it took me long enough....Jack Coombs-BH

Yes it is Coombs. Won three games in the 1910 Series while hitting .385, which is pretty good for anybody, not just a pitcher.

[BobH]

Been wined and dined by my adult kids for Dad's Day...so I'm a bit late getting this up, but here's another boy from the Hall...

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQpSYIXlyIKbZCuTc6HLegZfy_-EOc2QpSRGLkHPnGD44_g2m03

...And here's a pic of him in his Seattle Rainier uni just before being called up...-BH

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRDUkLWruucU0jreqh8Dotu6Aynk0YWx 1LTYAkYWRvLHgH5dK27aw

[soberdennis]

That is Earl Averill, who pretty much ended Dizzy Dean's career.

[BobH]

Great job, dennis....that was a whole lot faster than I thought it would be. When a reporter asked Diz about his fractured toe after the '37 All-Star game that he suffered on a line drive off Averill's bat, Diz' quipped, "Fractured Hell, the damn things broken!". Here's the two of them sharing a laugh over the incident in an old-timer's game after their retirement....-BH

http://www.corbisimages.com/images/Corbis-BE049814.jpg?size=67&uid=adcb4152-bfd9-4044-8b79-81bc31de464e

[soberdennis]

who is this rookie of the year?
1816

[BobH]

Would that be a young Alvin Dark?-BH

[soberdennis]

Yep that is Dark, also one of a handful of managers to win pennants in both leagues.

[BobH]

Here's a man who batted well over .300 in his 14 year career topping .360 3 times in that career...yet has never been selected for the HoF. Who is he?.....-BH

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTAq14u82kD4m2mUlenbdk1UuiLnrjuu oR0DZy8qfGMX7so3hQoxg

[soberdennis]

That's Riggs Stephenson, whose batting average is surpassed only by Joe Jackson amongst non HOFers.

[BobH]

Yep.....Got 'im!-BH

[soberdennis]

Ok. Who is this former MVP?
1821

[BobH]

That's Riggs Stephenson, whose batting average is surpassed only by Joe Jackson amongst non HOFers.

BTW, sober....don't forget Lefty O'Doul(.349 LT BA)...-BH

[BobH]

Little Bobby Shantz...I remember that MVP year because the lowly Philadelphia A's spring trained in my hometown and he was a hero there posting 24 wins when I was 10 years old...which coupled with a 2.48 ERA won him the MVP for the year in '52.-BH

[soberdennis]

Yeah. That's Shantz, obviously later in his career with the Colt 45's

[BobH]

Another Hall man....-BH

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSWv2KbBNP_45cNTKXRuPSD1gQjCPZu4 FQoHXj26xeJwVt7JIOvcg

[soberdennis]

I can't seem to find the pic. But that looks like the Big Cat. Johnny Mize.

[BobH]

He does look a bit like big John...but that's not him.-BH

[soberdennis]

Another guess. Bill Terry. If not, I may need a hint.

[BobH]

Not Bill Terry, sober....see if this pic might not offer a clue for you....-BH

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTKNemTwyIuR6oN6eSwzp0LPXKNFcoxa LdqtlYMzpb5V6M0UjYUyA

[soberdennis]

A catcher-How about Schozz-Ernie Lombardi

[Old Sweater]

I think we already done the Schozz.

[BobH]

Sorry...not the Schnozz. OS is right. He's been done....maybe this one will help. In 1938 he hit a famous walk-off game winning homer during the pennant race that was given a colorful title based on a song.-BH

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTIvc5LZBExCVqU3YDek13va5bjbE3pl k5Y4omKIPjVBw6u2vSUXQ

[soberdennis]

The homer in the gloaming-Gabby Hartnett.
The Pirates had already started selling WS tickets, but Gabby shot that down.

[soberdennis]

How about this HOFer?1842

[Old Sweater]

^ With those ears that player resembles Joe Jackson to me. Can't be though.

[BobH]

^ With those ears that player resembles Joe Jackson to me. Can't be though.

Player's the secret word, OS. He could never have made it as a player...but he did as a manager.

Bill McKechnie-BH

[soberdennis]

Player's the secret word, OS. He could never have made it as a player...but he did as a manager.

Bill McKechnie-BH
Yep. That's McKechnie, one of two managers to take three different teams to the World Series. The other was this guy.1848

[BobH]

...and Dick Williams was the other...next hofer...-BH

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTGjL0DJ_1WTaxumtv0Zfi878b93leao Ced4c4Gyo3L-nJAmCvOxQ

[Old Sweater]

I believe that is Lou Boudreau.

[BobH]

Boudreau is right, OS...-BH

[Old Sweater]

This HOF'er should be easy. Very distinctive features and uniform.

[soberdennis]

That's Uncle Wilbert Robinson. Manager of the Dodgers after he left Manhattan and his good friend John McGraw.

[Old Sweater]

Right you are Sober.

[soberdennis]

Who is this World Series hero?
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[Old Sweater]

After you said WS hero the first player who came to mind for me was Enos Slaughter.

http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/2958/401407f.jpg

[soberdennis]

After you said WS hero the first player who came to mind for me was Enos Slaughter.

http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/2958/401407f.jpg

Nope, that is not Slaughter.

[BobH]

That's a very young Spahnie...-BH

[Old Sweater]

Nope, that is not Slaughter.

Man, I thought I aced that one.


That's a very young Spahnie...-BH

Thanks, I need the leg kick to go with the face. You're right about young with all that sparkle in the eye.

[BobH]

Here's a better version of the same pic, OS....

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slideshows/190/slideshow_19008/display_image.jpg?x=36357

....and the write-up that went along with the photo..-BH

The best pitcher the Milwaukee Braves have ever had. He was drafted into the U.S. Army in 1943 until being discharged in 1946, losing what could have been a very productive couple of years. Spahn had many great years including 1947 when he went 21-10 with 22 complete games, 7 shutouts and a 2.33 ERA. 1953 was another great year for Spahn that saw him finish with a 23-7 record,, with 24 complete games, five shutouts and a 2.10 ERA. He ended his career with 356 wins, 229 losses, 3.05 ERA, 2,493 strikeouts, and 63 shutouts."....from the Bleacher Report website


"

[BobH]

...And now...the next hofer....-BH

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTvQiQHtPOxgRuemloRTsasRhrIs-J255828fmJlQ3M0_GAWC2rVw

[Old Sweater]

I didn't have the slightest so I used the google cheater and found out it was Rick Ferrell.

Lets go with a Negro League HOF'er who had a cup of coffee with the St Louis Browns.

[BobH]

Willard Brown?...who played a few games for the Browns in 1947.-BH

[Old Sweater]

Right you are Bob!

[BobH]

A future hofer(...or at least he should be with over 2700 base-hits)....-BH

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRFV_eZFGJ1olA1XVpy6d1ZG3tiCYL0W Fww53vMVXKqiitzpy3w

[Mudge]

With that smile, it would have to be Vada Pinson

[Mudge]

Loved coming to the plate, this guy, and his name betrays his productivity.

https://encrypted-tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTvn1Pb5P-B7txpfIHfngTsi2Q_GxPBCNc91sUiLMt8xKal9UMo-A

[BobH]

Mudge is this guy a Hall of Famer?-BH

[Mudge]

Mudge is this guy a Hall of Famer?-BH

He is not (is that a requirement for this thread?).

But he holds a significant place in the leader boards -- for the pre-162-game seasons at least -- for his number of plate appearances in a single season (over several consecutive seasons in fact).


I love his name, though, which belies his lifetime .291 average in 11 seasons, mostly with the Cardinals.

Here's another picture from later in his career.

http://ts1.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=5051955867550004&id=17e17d56f9d179aa094ed79812714e2d

Looks a little bit like Robert Redford in The Natural.

[BobH]

No...HoF is certainly not a requirement. I was just wondering if I needed to widen my search...and I think I got 'im...A name like his does grab one's attention for sure-BH

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT2hCtIiZLuTVraG-fYY9nwNkC3_uel-itqjh0Mqi4Z48qB09B5Zw

[Mudge]

You got it, Bob.

Taylor Douthit's 752 plate appearances for the Cardinals in 1928 is the most ever for a player in the 154-game season. Prior to the MLB schedule expanding to 162 games, only three other layers had more than 750 PS in a season, Frank Crosetti (757 in 1938), Dom DiMaggio (756 in 1948), and Woody English (755 in 1930). But each of them played in more than 154 games in those seasons.

So, Mr. Douthit holds a record unlikely to be broken.

[BobH]

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQyBODz9yb4HVdpn3CdIHa7K70Qtc51w 9mLshnBLP-hdzc3d3WE

The guy above, who managed only a .267 career BA, held the record for most consecutive games with a Home Run for over 30 years before eventually being tied by two other players who were much more well-known. Who am I?-BH

[Old Sweater]

Is it Tommy Thevenow?


As mentioned previously, Donie Bush and Doc Cramer each put together four consecutive homerless seasons. This enabled them to compile long at bat streaks without a homer. However, the record belongs to Tommy Thevenow, a National League infielder, who went from September 24, 1926 to the end of his career in 1938 without a four-base blow - a streak of 3347 at bats. He hit two home runs, both early in his career, and both were inside-the-park jobs.

[BobH]

I"m confused, OS....do you understand what I'm looking for?-BH

[Mudge]

I"m confused, OS....do you understand what I'm looking for?-BH

Senior moment for OS.

Like I'm one to talk. Takes one to know one, right?

Anyway, the Pirate hitter in your picture really could hit the LONG ball, at least for those 8 games.

[Old Sweater]

I"m confused, OS....do you understand what I'm looking for?-BH

Not a senior moment Mudge, I pulled a Clemens and misread it.

At least now I know the record of futility belongs to Tommy Thevenow.

The guy Bob posted has a long last name but I can't remember it.:)

[Old Sweater]

The player was Dale Long, Bob.

Lets go with a guy that was very instrumental for the Negro Leagues. He is in the HOF as a manager but was one heck of a pitcher in his prime.

[Mudge]

Andrew "Rube" Foster, aka The Father of Black Baseball.

According to various accounts, including his own, Foster acquired the nickname "Rube" after defeating star Philadelphia Athletics left-hander Rube Waddell in a postseason exhibition game played sometime between 1902 and 1905

Here he is in a more executive outfit:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a8/Rube_Foster_1924.jpg/220px-Rube_Foster_1924.jpg

[Old Sweater]

Yep, you're up to bat Mudge.

[BobH]

Hey guys...you got ahead of me....Dale Long set his streak of 8 in 1956 which wasn't equaled until 31 years later when Don Mattingly did it for the Yanks in 1987 and Griffey Jr also popped 8 consecutive in 1993. No one has ever done 9 or more .-BH

[Mudge]

Yep, you're up to bat Mudge.

Though far more remembered for another incident in baseball's remarkable history, still this guy averaged more sacrifice hits per season than anyone who ever played the game for more than 5 years, including the great Eddie Collins.

http://ts1.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=4936339681116924&id=2bc70b8cb6a98a27704091fa895c766d

[BobH]

This guy had 334 SH in a short 9 year career. Collins was the all-time leader with 512....but it took him 25 years to do it. Carl May ended Ray Chapman's career....and life..with a pitch to the head in 1920.-BH

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSrVF9n5Kon4zH6wAl8MqiWETX6gQxvg m0oupZ--3qlxfFOJFI6fg

[BobH]

For obvious reasons, here's a guy compared to the legendary Roy Hobbs.....He had a solid .285 career over 11 years.-BH

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSoyi30CfzuH9J_RA2mjTEoT-4gaP88TjLgCYeCWvMMrynPmgmXCA

[BobH]

No clue who it is???....here's another pic later in his career...-BH

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR4OYaikPKLwflU4Y8NNkJ9HYXN_BUJr xAsyjZRiLgXTnTfHSMr7w

[Mudge]

I'm drawing a blank.

Normis the reference to Hobbs helping me.

[BobH]

Mudge, the reference to Hobbs has to do with the fact that something happened to Roy that this guy had happen to him. I can think of no other time in MLB history that something like this happened to another player....and the player lived to tell about it. The pic below was taken of him shortly after it happened...-BH

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTc-RynqnJ31gvvAB8jbFlQxB4KH90kIto5b67x4yibr_DZJpFv9A

[soberdennis]

It took me a while to place the pictures with the hints. It is Whiz Kid Eddie Waitkus.
Here is the story behind that last pic.

Just a few years into the start of what seemed a very promising career, Waitkus was shot in the chest by Ruth Ann Steinhagen, an obsessed fan, on June 14, 1949, at the Edgewater Beach Hotel in Chicago.[1] Steinhagen had become infatuated with him when he was a Cub, but seeing him every day in-season apparently kept her obsession in check. Once he was traded to the Phillies and would only be in Chicago 11 games in the season, her obsession grew to dangerous proportions. She checked into the hotel using the alias of a former high school classmate of his, and left a note at the desk asking him to come to her hotel room on an urgent matter. She then shot him with a rifle, the bullet barely missing his heart. He nearly died several times on the operating table before the bullet was successfully removed. Steinhagen never stood trial, but instead was confined to a mental institution. Steinhagen's obsession and stalking was covered at length in one of the Fireside Book of Baseball entries.


and this concerning the Roy Hobbs reference.

Author Bernard Malamud, who was not a baseball fan himself, took the basic elements of the Waitkus story and wove them along with various baseball legends (notably Joe Jackson) into a novel, a morality tale called The Natural.[3] The book was published in 1952, and was eventually made into a film that was released in 1984.

[BobH]

Right, Sober....and thanks for the great background material...:yup:-BH

[soberdennis]

Who is this HOFer?
1891

[BobH]

Heinie Manush.-BH

[soberdennis]

Yep that's Heinie.

[BobH]

....and for post 2000...not a Hall member despite over 1800 base-hits and a life-time BA
of .324 in a13 yr. career...-BH

http://media4.picsearch.com/is?B0uTbZ3xt5tuym4nbWt81BhfAAnUJRBbA1-J6t7u-Mw

http://media2.picsearch.com/is?Ht78lsQ74mxJqidhFJQrT4-NrwUvVI4x_RK_LNHp8e4

[soberdennis]

That's Babe Herman.

[soberdennis]

Herman was well known for his poor fielding and as part of the "Daffiness Boys". He also once doubled into a double play.
Herman's name is associated with a baserunning gaffe during his rookie year. During a game on August 15, 1926, at Ebbets Field against the Boston Braves, he tried to stretch a double off the right field wall into a triple with one out and the bases loaded; Chick Fewster, who had been on first, advanced to third base – which was already occupied by Dazzy Vance, who had started from second base but was now caught in a rundown and was dashing back to third. All three of them ended up at third base, with Herman not having watched the play in front of him, and the third baseman, Eddie Taylor, tagged all three just to be sure of getting as many outs as possible. The slow-footed Vance had been a major contributor to this situation, but according to the rules, Vance (as the lead runner, not forced to advance) was entitled to the base, so umpire Beans Reardon called Herman and Fewster out. Thus, Babe Herman was said to have "doubled into a double play";[1] he would later complain that no one remembered that he drove in the winning run on the play. (Hank DeBerry was on third when Vance was on second and Fewster was on first; when Babe got his hit, DeBerry scored.) This led to the following popular joke:

"The Dodgers have 3 men on base!"
"Oh, yeh? Which base?"[2]

[BobH]

You got 'em...and gave us a great story to boot. I knew that but had completely forgotten it.-BH

[soberdennis]

Who is this homerun champion?
1916

[BobH]

Ken Williams....He lead the AL in 1922 with 39 for the St. Louis Browns.-BH

[soberdennis]

Yep that is Williams near the end of his career with the Red Sox.

[BobH]

I'd heard of him, for sure, but I never realized he was such a good player. From 1919-1929 he failed to hit .300 only once with a high of .357 in 1923. His final LTBA was a super good .319. The man could mortally hit.-BH

[soberdennis]

I'd heard of him, for sure, but I never realized he was such a good player. From 1919-1929 he failed to hit .300 only once with a high of .357 in 1923. His final LTBA was a super good .319. The man could mortally hit.-BH

Makes you wonder why he didn't get more consideration for the HOF. I don't know if he belongs. But he never got as much as 1% of the vote.

[Mudge]

Makes you wonder why he didn't get more consideration for the HOF. I don't know if he belongs. But he never got as much as 1% of the vote.

Williams suffered from a number of obstacles. First, and most obvious, he played for the Browns/Red Sox in a mostly Yankee-dominated era -- which means both little press and not a whole lot of team support.

He played left field mostly, not a high-value defensive position.

Also, Williams did not even play a full major league season until he was 30. His peak, like his career, was good, but short.

As for the HoF, he's kind of like Dwight Evans. Maybe he should not be in, but to get such a paltry vote seems odd.

[Old Sweater]

I think that is the first picture of Ken Williams I ever saw. You can tell he had a bit of age going.

[BobH]

I think that is the first picture of Ken Williams I ever saw. You can tell he had a bit of age going.....Yeah, he played for the Sox in 1928 & '29 when he was 38 and 39 yrs. old....the last two years of his career.-BH

[Old Sweater]

Whose up to bat?

[soberdennis]

I think that is the first picture of Ken Williams I ever saw. You can tell he had a bit of age going.
I picked that picture because he was better known for the Browns than the Sox. I didn't even realize he had played for the Sox until I saw the picture.

[soberdennis]

Whose up to bat?

I believe Bob is.

[BobH]

Sorry guys...I think I'm falling asleep on the job....here's a HoFer to work on...-BH

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSJ4p2GKTZZ4_JhDAkHhF5yzXs2CdFLV Tmp2Qvtqs8ddS31r60xmQ

[Old Sweater]

That is Tony Lazzeri. I couldn't read his name but I could make out 1927 Yankees in that fine print.

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/2664/tony20lazzeri20192720ne.png

You should have seen me with my glasses off and my nose on the screen trying to read that fine print.

[Old Sweater]

Here is another HOF'er I think we haven't done before............

[soberdennis]

That's the Iron Man Joe McGinnity.

[BobH]

I didn't even notice that, Sweater. You burned me , Buddy...:D-BH

[Old Sweater]

That's the Iron Man Joe McGinnity.

Right you are Sober. Joe was a fine looking player.

Never leave a near sighted guy fine print, Bob.:)

[BobH]

OK, OS....here's another Hall guy....

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQkmwxhD_yByjcaCCv8GniU0XD1A_V4A dHjl5hzk8CUtJS0QeXZ

I don't see any 'fine print' on this one...:nana:-BH

[Old Sweater]

No but there is a Tigers uniform and a small glove. Is that the guy that has the most career triples, Sam Crawford?

[BobH]

That's ol' Wahoo, Sweater...good work, my man!...:veryhappy:-BH

[Old Sweater]

Here is one of the best Negro Leaguers that is in the HOF.

[BobH]

....Luv his name...-BH

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQSqWfmOcvrdYdP6OF0dEkE1GtsDlHPJ S9qyrH002IWZwJjKGvO

[BobH]

OK...here's a guy who won a HR title and 3 RBI titles in his 15 year career. Although never quite up to HoF caliber he was certainly a fine ballplayer and a consistent .285-.290 hitter finishing his career with a solid .286 BA.

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQMS08KSECya27HpS2dJBtuq6g5dIvOx _mM0ayEnCKGfv1RWAil7g

....and this pic outside Boston's Fenway Park...-BH

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTnwgM5wQlB6JqgIZUDuYnygIVU6nGbs Dkwo9wQmQEau7mDlOFepQ

[BobH]

OK...I can see you all need a little help....

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRbqcpmgmBbdWXlA6oOMeZ9TunSG1OU0 hVd44U_DC4-U2fhPPQsVw

I'll give this guy credit for one thing....he seems to be smiling in almost every picture I've seen of him...-BH

[BobH]

OK....here's a clue....He looked so young many people called him a certain name that stuck as a nickname.-BH

[Mudge]

Sorry, I've been neglecting this thread.

That would be 8-time all-star Junior/Buster "Vern" Stephens, who did indeed put together some good seasons for the Browns and the Red Sox, especially productive given that he played shortstop.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/03/Vern_Stephens.jpg/200px-Vern_Stephens.jpg

He died young: heart attack at the age of 48.

[Mudge]

The war years produced some players whose tenures were brief but who made the most of what they had.

This guy won a HR title, an RBI title, and ended up with a career 126 OPS+.

http://ts3.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=4623013257282122&id=62fa6ca9f54e1c716787e06fa2bceb50

[BobH]

If it's who I think it is here's his pic in the uni he wore when hitting 22HR in 1944 and 111RBI in 1945...both AL highs for those years. He had a rep as a good contact hitter too...striking out less than 200 times in over 3800 plate appearances......

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSRLKGk06Buh4TXcJEjKy8x-YPnQptus1dSZD6Mp7WYW8DT3pYxRw

Is it Nick Etten?-BH

[Mudge]

If it's who I think it is here's his pic in the uni he wore when hitting 22HR in 1944 and 111RBI in 1945...both AL highs for those years. He had a rep as a good contact hitter too...striking out less than 200 times in over 3800 plate appearances......

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSRLKGk06Buh4TXcJEjKy8x-YPnQptus1dSZD6Mp7WYW8DT3pYxRw

Is it Nick Etten?-BH

Nick Etten is correct.

Here he is again (the tall one -- second from the left) with teammates Joe Gordon, George Stirnweiss and Billy Johnson.

http://lonecadaver.com/43%20Gordon%20Etten%20Sternweiss%20Johnson.jpg

[BobH]

Here's a guy who came on the scene in a huge way. In his first two years in MLB he won 20+ games posting ERAs of about 3.00 each year. In his 2nd year he had the best won-lost % in the AL with a fine.806%. In mid-July of his 3rd year in a night game he threw a curve ball and felt a bad snap in his right shoulder. That was it. His great fastball was history and he was out of the league after only 6 years..although his team did their medical best for him. He was with the same team all 6 of those years. He was also a pretty fair hitter as a pitcher...posting a .250 LTBA. He's still alive today at 90 Yrs. old.

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSLtApMv8Rue-jxchJQe_jzH-LM25wXbZgSZDxtqFmIF6r-ljsXFA

And here's a BIG clue....New England fans should definitely remember him....-BH

[soberdennis]

That's 1946 Sox ace Boo Ferris.

[soberdennis]

How about this guy- who played a big role on two championship teams?
1933

[BobH]

How about this guy- who played a big role on two championship teams?

He sure did...but not with the Cubs. He played in 4 straight WS for the NY Giants in the years '21-'24. This is Art Nehf.-BH

[BobH]

That's 1946 Sox ace Boo Ferris.

Yep....Dave "Boo" Ferriss...with two 'esses'.-BH

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQUj1gYxFUYE3KQEsKmw2qIvfFDtYs_3 NCjDDfllWYPRS72lkoG

[BobH]

This guy is a 'one of a kind' for a very special reason....-BH

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ40k8w7Gd1eA-4dUMug3Ybo2nJFzCOoxc8YnI1ZB6p-cD9lmL1VA

[soberdennis]

He sure did...but not with the Cubs. He played in 4 straight WS for the NY Giants in the years '21-'24. This is Art Nehf.-BH

I know that his important role in championships was with the Giants, not the Cubs, even though that pic was from a pennant winning year-1929. Yes, it is Nehf.

[BobH]

I know that his important role in championships was with the Giants, not the Cubs, even though that pic was from a pennant winning year-1929. Yes, it is Nehf.

Right. '29 was a pennant winning year for the Cubs....and Nehf's final ML year.

[BobH]

Here's a bit more help for the pitcher up above.....

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQtXMZ4K8loOeEggKkzHmUN0APzowuQU f24x-P8xrQrTIZksqaz

and this...-BH

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRBBDUSFErXrVWCNiwrouhMXvyhoi4Z3 hQXegTOPJoGW1lZO4Wl

[BobH]

Think 1938, guys...-BH

[Mudge]

Thornton Lee?

[BobH]

Nope...not Thornton, Mudge. This guy's 'one of a kind' occurence was in 1938. No one else has ever accomplished what he did..-BH

[soberdennis]

That is the man of the double no-no-Johnny Vander Meer. The year 1938 gave it away.

[soberdennis]

How about this guy who won an MVP award?
1945

[BobH]

Bucky walters.-BH

[BobH]

Back to Hall of Fame guy.....

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT-N_dPrZIEfC7Y1QsXzwy_NZpcnRhFn41RgGfCZWRrb9iHeNIO

...and if this doesn't help ya, nothin' will...-BH

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS5Pp9U3Av4Mjf51iN9QCe3p5H9Cxaxj K6QlIJn5t_qrv89QmWJCA

[soberdennis]

Is that Red Faber?

[BobH]

Yep...that's Red. Spent his entire 20 year career with the White Sox...-BH

[soberdennis]

How about this HOFer as a very young player.
1955

[BobH]

Is it the same guy as this fella?...:smile:...-BH

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQuVGj2i3GE6lhFU9yNDf4OxXXfspaoO 18nt30fDzdpzc71nHTw

[soberdennis]

Is it the same guy as this fella?...:smile:...-BH

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQuVGj2i3GE6lhFU9yNDf4OxXXfspaoO 18nt30fDzdpzc71nHTw

Oddly enough, yes that young Philadelphia Phillie is the same as that old Detroit Tiger. Anderson played one year in the Majors, with the Phils.

[soberdennis]

It's your turn Bob.

[BobH]

OK...Not in the Hall but this man could flat hit a baseball.....-BH

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQv1i08US0fss82cLrYa5G5IFIoMTEu9 ig_5XDzG75NJlTlxfCU

[soberdennis]

It took a while for me to think of who that would be-the pitcher with the record for most runs given up in a game by a relief pitcher, Lefty O'Doul.

[soberdennis]

How abou i this guy?1979

[BobH]

I can't duplicate this pic with a name, sober, but I swear he looks an awful lot like Charlie "King Kong" Keller. He did spend a couple of years with the Tigers in the early 50's despite playin' with the Yanks a buncha years-BH

[soberdennis]

That is King Kong. You're right.

[BobH]

Here's a guy who was a superb pitcher in a career covering 13 years. He was the NL won-lost % leader for 3 straight years at one point in his career and actually once threw two shut outs in a same day double header beating the Dodgers 5-0 and 3-0....the only ML pitcher to ever accomplish this feat. He finished his career with a great 2.28ERA with a .632 won-loss%-BH

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcREMGiCI8AmIaoD1PAdOV9IL9moBmWSi 1wNSWnYaXbPNFIu73m9_g

[BobH]

Same guy with another team pic...-BH

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT_lC38-AZQpSBZJ-lwEtTPwj-19NZktAiZD30rM8DUyAKPZKdS