Dynasty League General Discussion

[Mudge]

2012 BN Dynasty League Discussion


Rules and rosters: http://baseballnation.net/showthread.php?4384-Dynasty-League-Rules-and-Rosters-2012


Player Values: http://baseballnation.net/showthread.php?4416-Player-Values-2012


Trading thread: http://baseballnation.net/showthread.php?4331-Trading-Place-(Early)-2012-Dynasty-League

[astrosfanatic]

As are the Houston Marlins

[LarryBud]

The Reigning Champs- LB Texas Rangers are in and looking forward to another title.

[WilsonC]

I'm still in.

[Mudge]

Hey. Not bad for a response thus far.

[Mudge]

Here's my team, as it closed the 2011 season:


C Nick Hundley, SD
1B Prince Fielder, FA
2B Rickie Weeks, Mil
3B Ryan Zimmerman, Wsh
SS Ian Desmond, Wsh
MI Jason Kipnis, Cle
CI Brent Morel, CWS
LF Ryan Braun, Mil
CF Curtis Granderson, NYY
RF Corey Hart, Mil
OF Brett Gardner, NYY
U Josh Willingham, Col
B Troy Tulowitzki, Col

P Ubaldo Jimenez, Cle
P Carlos Marmol, ChC
P Matt Moore, TB
SP Zack Greinke, Mil
SP Shaun Marcum, Mil
SP Doug Fister, Det
RP Heath Bell, Tex
RP John Axford, Mil
RP Joel Hanrahan, Pit
B Gio Gonzalez, Wsh
B Yovani Gallardo, Mil
B Julio Teheran, Atl

As you can see, there are many players from teams other than the Brewers, which is fine. That's how we set it up. Further, I have claim to all players on the Brewers; 40-man roster who are NOT otherwise taken in this league.

What I am working on -- and what I need to settle before seeking new owners for the league -- is exactly how we are going to bring those owners on board.

Here are the options:

They simply accept one of the teams that is available (at this moment, it looks like we will have 6 of those: Num3er0's White Sox, JoshRedcay's Cardinals, Ted's Orioles, Curt's Red Sox, The Giants, and The Dodgers). This would be the easiest on the league as a whole and yet probably the hardest to fill with the right owners.


New owners get to select the MLB team of their choice, with rights to all players on that team's 40-man roster EXCEPT those otherwise taken in the league. They then participate in a draft (primarily among all new owners) for those players who remain unattached.


Other ideas?

[OutfieldGrass]

I would be interested in joining.

[Mudge]

I would be interested in joining.

Good. Once I establish the parameters, I'll let you know.

[Mudge]

Here's what we've got so far.

First things first: Reduce you rosters to 25, which means you've got to activate guys on the DL (in bold) and drop guys if necessary to make room for them.

Mudge's BREWERS

C Nick Hundley, SD
1B Prince Fielder, FA
2B Rickie Weeks, Mil
3B Ryan Zimmerman, Wsh
SS Ian Desmond, Wsh
MI Jason Kipnis, Cle
CI Brent Morel, CWS
LF Ryan Braun, Mil
CF Curtis Granderson, NYY
RF Corey Hart, Mil
OF Brett Gardner, NYY
U Josh Willingham, Col
B Troy Tulowitzki, Col

P Ubaldo Jimenez, Cle
P Carlos Marmol, ChC
P Matt Moore, TB
SP Zack Greinke, Mil
SP Shaun Marcum, Mil
SP Doug Fister, Det
RP Heath Bell, Tex
RP John Axford, Mil
RP Joel Hanrahan, Pit
B Gio Gonzalez, Wsh
B Yovani Gallardo, Mil
B Julio Teheran, Atl
LB's RANGERS

C Mike Napoli, Tex
1B Carlos Lee, Hou
2B Ian Kinsler, Tex
3B Evan Longoria, TB
SS Elvis Andrus, Tex
MI Howard Kendrick, LAA
CI Adrian Beltre, Tex
LF Josh Hamilton, Tex
CF Michael Bourn, Atl
RF Desmond Jennings, TB
OF Jay Bruce, Cin
U Cameron Maybin, SD
B Nelson Cruz, Tex
B Mitch Moreland, Tex
DL Kendrys Morales, LAA
DL Ike Davis, NYM

P Colby Lewis, Tex
P Jeremy Hellickson, TB
P Kevin Gregg, Bal
SP C.J. Wilson, LAA
SP Stephen Strasburg, Wsh
SP Alexi Ogando, Tex RP,
RP Neftali Feliz, Tex
RP Joakim Soria, KC
RP Aroldis Chapman, Cin RP
B CC Sabathia, NYY
B Matt Garza, ChC
WilsonC's BRAVES

C Brian McCann, Atl
1B Mark Teixeira, NYY
2B Danny Espinosa, Wsh
3B Jose Bautista, Tor
SS Jimmy Rollins, Phi
MI Dan Uggla, Atl
CI Paul Goldschmidt, Ari
LF Michael Cuddyer, Min
CF B.J. Upton, TB
RF Jason Heyward, Atl
OF Travis Snider, Tor
U Geovany Soto, ChC
B Brett Lawrie, Tor
B Mike Trout, LAA

P Cliff Lee, Phi
P Tim Hudson, Atl
P Frank Francisco, Tor
SP Max Scherzer, Det
SP Jhoulys Chacin, Col
SP Brandon Beachy, Atl
RP Andrew Bailey, Bos
RP Craig Kimbrel, Atl
RP Drew Storen, Wsh
B Edwin Jackson, StL
B Tommy Hanson, Atl
Astrofanatic's MARLINS

C Yadier Molina, StL
1B Miguel Cabrera, Det
2B Ben Zobrist, TB
3B Mike Moustakas, KC
SS Jhonny Peralta, Det
MI Hanley Ramirez, Fla
CI Ryan Howard, Phi
LF J.D. Martinez, Hou
CF Angel Pagan, NYM
RF Nick Swisher, NYY
OF Mike Stanton, Fla
U Joey Votto, Cin
B Buster Posey, SF
B Coco Crisp, Oak
B Freddie Freeman, Atl

P Cole Hamels, Phi
P Hiroki Kuroda, LAD
P Madison Bumgarner, SF
SP Dan Haren, LAA
SP Anibal Sanchez, Fla
SP Bud Norris, Hou
RP Mariano Rivera, NYY
RP Jason Motte, StL
B Johnny Cueto, Cin
B Josh Johnson, Fla
Num3er0's WHITE SOX

C Miguel Montero, Ari
1B Paul Konerko, CWS
2B Chase Utley, Phi
3B Dayan Viciedo, CWS
SS Alexei Ramirez, CWS
MI Emilio Bonifacio, Fla
CI Mark Reynolds, Bal
LF Juan Pierre, CWS
CF Andrew McCutchen, Pit
RF Hunter Pence, Phi
OF Michael Morse, Wsh
UT David Ortiz, Bos
B Carlos Quentin, CWS
B Yunel Escobar, Tor

P Mat Latos, SD
P James Shields, TB
P Ian Kennedy, Ari
SP Daniel Hudson, Ari
SP Vance Worley, Phi
SP Roy Oswalt, Phi
RP Brandon League, Sea
RP Kyle Farnsworth, TB
RP Sergio Santos, CWS
B John Danks, CWS
B Erik Bedard, Bos

[OutfieldGrass]

Good. Once I establish the parameters, I'll let you know.

Thank you.

[Mudge]

Curtis is out.

That means the following clubs are officially available (first come, first served):

Red Sox

C Carlos Santana, Cle
1B Adrian Gonzalez, Bos
2B Dustin Pedroia, Bos
3B Kevin Youkilis, Bos
SS Starlin Castro, ChC
MI Neil Walker, Pit
CI Billy Butler, KC
LF Carl Crawford, Bos
CF Jacoby Ellsbury, Bos
RF Justin Upton, Ari
OF Denard Span, Min
UT Carlos Pena, ChC
B Kila Ka'aihue, Oak
B Bryce Harper, Was

P Felix Hernandez, Sea
P Francisco Liriano, Min
P James McDonald, Pit
SP Josh Beckett, Bos
SP Brandon Morrow, Tor
SP Jordan Zimmermann, Was
RP Daniel Bard, Bos
RP Jonathan Papelbon, Phi
RP Francisco Rodriguez, Mil
B Jon Lester, Bos
B Edinson Volquez, Cin
Giants

C J.P. Arencibia, Tor
1B Daric Barton, Oak
2B Jemile Weeks, Oak
3B Alex Rodriguez, NYY
SS Stephen Drew, Ari
MI Asdrubal Cabrera, Cle
CI Pablo Sandoval, SF
LF Aubrey Huff, SF
CF Carlos Beltran,
RF Ryan Ludwick, Pit
OF Shane Victorino, Phi
UT Jayson Werth, Was
B Chris Young, Ari
B Seth Smith, Col

P Tim Lincecum, SF
P Ryan Madson, Phi
P Aaron Harang, SD
SP Justin Masterson, Cle
SP Michael Pineda, Sea
SP Josh Collmenter, Ari
RP Brian Wilson, SF
RP Javier Lopez, SF
RP Sergio Romo, SF
B Matt Cain, SF
B Jonathan Sanchez, SF
Dodgers

C Joe Mauer, Min
1B Justin Morneau, Min
2B Brandon Phillips, Cin
3B Aramis Ramirez, Mil
SS Derek Jeter, NYY
MI Gordon Beckham, CWS
CI Michael Martinez, Phi
LF Logan Morrison, Fla
CF Matt Kemp, LAD
RF Andre Ethier, LAD
OF Carlos Gonzalez, Col
UT Brennan Boesch, Det
B Alcides Escobar, KC
B Alex Avila, Det C
B Raul Ibanez, Phi

P Wandy Rodriguez, Hou
P Jeff Karstens, Pit
P Mike Adams, Tex
SP Clayton Kershaw, LAD
SP Chad Billingsley, LAD
SP Jake Arrieta, Bal
RP Jose Valverde, Det
RP David Hernandez, Ari
RP Javy Guerra, LAD
B Clay Buchholz, Bos
The Orioles

C Matt Wieters, Bal
1B Eric Hosmer, KC
2B Dustin Ackley, Sea
3B Edwin Encarnacion, Tor
SS J.J. Hardy, Bal
MI Michael Young, Tex
CI David Wright, NYM
LF Alex Gordon, KC
CF Peter Bourjos, LAA
RF Nick Markakis, Bal
OF Mark Trumbo, LAA
UT Jesus Montero, NYY
B Drew Stubbs, Cin
B Melky Cabrera, KC
DL Zack Cozart, Cin
DL Shin-Soo Choo, Cle

P Jered Weaver, LAA
P Jordan Walden, LAA
P Gavin Floyd, CWS
SP Roy Halladay, Phi
SP Mike Minor, Atl
SP Zach Britton, Bal
RP Chris Perez, Cle
RP J.J. Putz, Ari
RP Joe Nathan, Min
B Ryan Vogelsong, SF
B Ervin Santana, LAA
The Cardinals

C Victor Martinez, Det
1B Albert Pujols, StL
2B Robinson Cano, NYY
3B Mike Aviles, Bos
SS Jose Reyes, NYM
MI Erick Aybar, LAA
CI Lance Berkman, StL
LF Matt Holliday, StL
CF Colby Rasmus, Tor
RF Ichiro Suzuki, Sea
OF Torii Hunter, LAA
UT Adam Jones, Bal
B Chase Headley, SD
B Kelly Johnson, Tor
B Justin Smoak, Sea

P Chris Carpenter, StL
P Jaime Garcia, StL
P Jonny Venters, Atl
SP Justin Verlander, Det
SP David Price, TB
SP Jair Jurrjens, Atl
RP Francisco Cordero, Cin
RP Huston Street, Col
RP Brad Lidge, Phi
B Ricky Romero, Tor
B Ricky Nolasco, Fla

[Baseballnum3er0]

Sorry for the late response but I'm back in. I'll make sure to check this space regularly again from here on out.

[astrosfanatic]

Sorry for the late response but I'm back in. I'll make sure to check this space regularly again from here on out.

awesome news...

[Mudge]

Sorry for the late response but I'm back in. I'll make sure to check this space regularly again from here on out.

Great. I'll add your team to the returning pile. All we need now is to hear from JoshRedcay and Ted Sawyer.

[astrosfanatic]

just made my necessary adjustments dropping Jose Altuve and the pitcher formerly known as Leo Nunez. i activated Buster Posey and Josh Johnson

[Baseballnum3er0]

Fixed mine as well, dropped Dunn to make room for Escobar.

[Mudge]

Greatly appreciated. I have made the necessary adjustments on post #9 of this thread.

WilsonC and LarryBud: you need to get your teams down to 25 men.

I'm going to ask Outfield Grass to select a team (and a home team).

[WilsonC]

Dropped Helton and Prado to make room for Lawrie and Hanson.

[Mudge]

Dropped Helton and Prado to make room for Lawrie and Hanson.

Thank you. We're almost in business.

Again, I've made the necessary changes in post #9.

[Cubs Fan]

I would be interested and I will take Dodgers...

[Mudge]

I would be interested and I will take Dodgers...

Great choice. Do you want your 40-man afiliation to be the Dodgers as well? You can pick another team (say, the Cubs). Under that rule, you have exclusive rights to any man on the Cubs 40-man roster who is not on another dynasty team (for example, Carlos Marmol is not available since he is already on Mudge's Brewers).

[Cubs Fan]

For that I will take Phillies. (If available)

[Mudge]

For that I will take Phillies. (If available)

They are, but note that many of them are on other teams (see post #9 -- these are the returning teams that are not available)

[Cubs Fan]

I will still go with them..

[Mudge]

I will still go with them..

I've posted all ten teams at the top of the page.

Your's will now be CF's Phillies.

Is that okay?

[Cubs Fan]

Yes it is.

[Cubs Fan]

Can we offer trades yet to other league members?

[Mudge]

Can we offer trades yet to other league members?
I don't see why not although I suspect most owners will not want to deal until they see the 2012 ROTOWire values, which come out in mid to late January.

[Cubs Fan]

Yeah. But I see some pretty good trades I can make for a few people.

[SHK]

Just checking in, thinking of joining.

[Cubs Fan]

Just checking in, thinking of joining.

We would love to have you!

[Mudge]

Just checking in, thinking of joining.
Yep. You could take any team available and still take the Blue Jays as your "HOME" team.

We would love to have you!
Agreed, wholeheartedly.

[astrosfanatic]

are we not going to do the $1 fee for adding dropping this year?? i didnt care for it (b/c of how many moves i typically make), but if it still exists that would be fine too

[WilsonC]

are we not going to do the $1 fee for adding dropping this year?? i didnt care for it (b/c of how many moves i typically make), but if it still exists that would be fine too

I'd vote for dropping it - I found it added some confusing administration, and I don't really think it was necessary.

[Cubs Fan]

I'd vote for dropping it - I found it added some confusing administration, and I don't really think it was necessary.

I say drop too.

[Mudge]

Yeah. We dropped it.

[Cubs Fan]

And just so you know I have offered a trade to AstrosFanfactic so the rosters might need changed depending on the results.

[Mudge]

And just so you know I have offered a trade to AstrosFanfactic so the rosters might need changed depending on the results.

I saw. I think he might prefer to respond via Private Message.

[Cubs Fan]

I'm really fine either way. But you can delete that thread if you want to or we can use it for trade bait like you said

[Cubs Fan]

There was no agreement reached between me and Astrosfanfactic.

[Mudge]

There was no agreement reached between me and Astrosfanfactic.
Okay.

Right now, I am focused on getting four more owners. I have sent out a PM to 50 or so BN members. So far, nothing (sadly, 4 have responded no).

Outfield Grass?

SHK?

[Cubs Fan]

Do you want me to make a thread somewhere else... Perhaps the Water Cooler? (To like ask to join?)

[Mudge]

Do you want me to make a thread somewhere else... Perhaps the Water Cooler? (To like ask to join?)

Thanks, but no. I've pretty much exhausted the BN membership with my PMs.

I'm working other angles now.

[Cubs Fan]

Okay!

I'm going to the rosters to check for maybe future deals.

[Cubs Fan]

Who owns the Rangers?

[Mudge]

Who owns the Rangers?
A member named LarryBud.

Oh, and Outfield Grass has joined the league, selecting the former Red Sox team and the Mariners as his home team. OG's Mariners.

Which leads me to say that new owners have been given the option to pick up a different "HOME TEAM" from those selected by their predecessors. That's okay by me.

And for that matter, if any of the previous owners want to change their HOME TEAM, I'm not against it. I'm guessing that most of the elite players are already taken.

Comments?

[Cubs Fan]

Yeah, that's what I thought because when you said some of the Phillies good players are gone, really all of them are gone.

[astrosfanatic]

i am fine with it as long as it is an option to all members, new and old, as you mentioned...

So it looks like we have 3 teams left, and each team looks to be in pretty good shape....If anyone knows of a friend who does fantasy baseball who might be interested, ask them...i would much rather the person who takes these teams to be known quantities.....

[OutfieldGrass]

Sorry it took me a bit to respond. Had a few things to take care of. Very excited to be apart of the league. If I need to I can pick Boston as my home team.

As I understand if, if I do keep Seattle as my home team, any player added to the 40 man roster that is not taken by another team....I can add to my roster? Is there an easy way to search all team rosters?

[Mudge]

Sorry it took me a bit to respond. Had a few things to take care of. Very excited to be apart of the league. If I need to I can pick Boston as my home team.

As I understand if, if I do keep Seattle as my home team, any player added to the 40 man roster that is not taken by another team....I can add to my roster? Is there an easy way to search all team rosters?

I have assigned the former Red Sox to you, but I have renamed them OF's MARINERS, since you will now have access to all the players on the 40-man roster who are not on another team.

The only way to figure that out is to scan the teams at the top of the page (You already have Felix, and I see that Ackley is on the Orioles, Pineda is a Giant, Ichiro and Smoak are on the Cardinals, and League is a White Sox -- there may be others, but I did not catch them at first glance).

Anyway, welcome to the league. All we need now is three more owners...

[LarryBud]

The Rangers drop the following to bring their roster into allignment for the 25 man roster

Carlos Lee, Hou and Kendrys Morales, LAA

Please move Ike Davis, NYM off my DL. Thanks!

[Mudge]

The Rangers drop the following to bring their roster into allignment for the 25 man roster

Carlos Lee, Hou and Kendrys Morales, LAA

Please move Ike Davis, NYM off my DL. Thanks!
Done.

Thank you.

[DieHard]

I'm in if I can still join

[Mudge]

I'm in if I can still join

Love to have you. There are three teams left. You can chose any of them you wish and you can change the HOME team affiliation as long as you understand that you do not have rights to players on your HOME team's 40-man roster who are currently on othe teams in the league.

Just let me know.

[Mudge]

Still looking for two more.

[OutfieldGrass]

When can I add players to my roster from the 40 man roster of my home team?

[Mudge]

When can I add players to my roster from the 40 man roster of my home team?
As soon as we have a full league, I'll set the dates.

We also have to wait for the RotoWire values to come out since those are the values (for better or worse) we use to cap our team salary at $260.

[OutfieldGrass]

Sounds good. So could I add a player who has no major league time but is on the 40 man roster? Are there any restrictions, other than players on other teams, on players we can add?

[Mudge]

Sounds good. So could I add a player who has no major league time but is on the 40 man roster? Are there any restrictions, other than players on other teams, on players we can add?
No restrictions, other than this one: when all is said and done, by opening day, you must end up with only 25 players/pitchers at under $260 RotoWire 2012 values.

Most likely, your player with no time will be worth only $1.

[DieHard]

I will go with the Cardinals and have the Cubs as my home team if possible

[Mudge]

I will go with the Cardinals and have the Cubs as my home team if possible

You're in!

Thanks for joining. Not much to do now except wait for the RotoWire values to come out. I bet they'll be pretty similar to the Diamond values I posted in the other thread.

[LarryBud]

I will go with the Cardinals and have the Cubs as my home team if possible

Isn't that heresy? Cardinals and Cubs, living together- what is the world coming to? :biggrin:

[LarryBud]

Mudge,
Since we are using ESPN to host the site, would it be better to use their $ values? It doesn't matter to me but thought it might be
easier.

[Mudge]

Mudge,
Since we are using ESPN to host the site, would it be better to use their $ values? It doesn't matter to me but thought it might be
easier.

The short answer is yes.

The problem is that the ESPN values do not come out until March. Last year, when we were organizing the entire league, we decided to use RotoWire because those values were available in late January, which gave us time to set up our teams in Year 1.

I suppose we could move over to ESPN values (it would certainly make it all easier), but it might produce a bit of a time crunch, especially for our new owners who are unfamiliar with the set-up, especially the Rule 5 Draft that we conduct.

Here's what I'm going to do. We stick with RotoWire this year (unless the ESPN numbers just happen to come out first). I'll then compare the values to see what real difference there is, and look forward perhaps to switching next year.

[Mudge]

OK.

Now that 2012 has arrived (Happy New Year, by the way), I'm getting psyched up for our league. I trust you are as well, and once again, I thank you for your ongoing interest and support.

A couple of notes:

1. We still need two more owners to make it go (I'm working on sjnemeth3) THOUGHTS?

2. See my previous post (#64) regarding the use of RotoWire values. THOUGHTS?

3. I want to review the discussion about salary cap. As you know, we must remain under $260 throughout the spring -- up to and through the Rule 5 Draft. The two major issues after that (i.e. during the regular season) were (A) the signing penalty and (B) the movements on and off the DL. I suggest that we (A) get rid of the signing penalty altogether and (B) include the players on the DL in our salary cap. In effect, that measn that when the season begins and you have a player who goes on the DL, his salary remains. You must then replace him with a guy who keeps your team's salary under the $260 cap. THOUGHTS?

4. Anything else?

[LarryBud]

I like all of those ideas Mudge. It should make it easier on you and all of us to keep track of our salaries.

[astrosfanatic]

i guess those all sound good to me. It sure would make in-season management easier on your side.

Another thing i might suggest is maybe adding 1 roster spot and 1 or 2 DL spots. Last year i was hamstrung by 2 of my star players being on the DL for the majority of the season. It made it extremely difficult for me to manage my roster and keep hold of young guys i was hoping to develop...

[LarryBud]

I agree with Astrofanatic. More DL spots would be helpful. There were times my DL spots were taken and most of my bench was DL
players.

[WilsonC]

I like all Mudge's ideas (as far as Rotowire vs. ESPN values, unless there's radical differences in the values, either is fine as long as they're out in advance of our drafting). I also like AF's idea of added DL slots. By counting injured guys against the salary cap, there's a cost to DLing guys, so I think it's reasonable to have more flexibility there.

[Mudge]

I'm not sure there's a compelling reason to add an active roster spot (maybe one more bench player, just to bring the total to an even 30). THOUGHTS?

However, I agree on the DL issue. We will add 2 DL spots (making four total), but with the stipulation that the entire team salary (25 active plus 4 DL) must not exceed the salary cap of $260? This of course will mean that we are going to have to pay close attention to our initial 25-man salaries in expectation of having enough money leftover (at least $4 anyway) to replace 4 potential DL guys. Either that or we'll have to drop a high-salary guy to replenish our squad.

All in all, this will make in season management a whole lot easier.

[DieHard]

Isn't that heresy? Cardinals and Cubs, living together- what is the world coming to? :biggrin:

As much as I hate it yes. both teams have desirable players :biggrin:

[astrosfanatic]

i got 2 leads on new owners.....stay tuned

[astrosfanatic]

both have said they are willing to take the Giants and Orioles, so it is up to Mudge as to whether or not they are officially invited....

[LVTdude]

I know Mike (astrosfanatic) from rotowire, and would like to claim the Giants if they are still available.

-Jim
"LVTdude"

[Cubs Fan]

I know Mike (astrosfanatic) from rotowire, and would like to claim the Giants if they are still available.

-Jim
"LVTdude"

Mudge should accept, most likely. Welcome to the League!

[LVTdude]

Thanks. I'm ready to get baseball season going.

[Cubs Fan]

A trade has been made between me and Astrosfanfactic.
I Get:
Yadier Molina
Hiroki Kuroda

He Gets:
Joe Mauer

[Cubs Fan]

Thanks. I'm ready to get baseball season going.


I am very ready too. Looking for the Cubbies to make a run and win it all.

[astrosfanatic]

A trade has been made between me and Astrosfanfactic.
I Get:
Yadier Molina
Hiroki Kuroda

He Gets:
Joe Mauer

Sorry for the edit, but Kuroda's name was all jacked up lol

i agree to this

[Cubs Fan]

Haaa. Yeah it was, sorry for that

[LarryBud]

It looks like Cubs Fan got his trade. Good to see trades are being made already.

[LarryBud]

Welcome LVTdude! We are glad to have you with us.

[Cubs Fan]

Yeah it has been a very active league so far. And no sign of decline.

[LVTdude]

Thanks guys. I'm ready to get going. I like to trade- a lot.

[Mr. Baseball]

I'll give this another try, if you'll have me.

[LVTdude]

Well, this looks like what I'm working with. I'm curious to see what dollar values these guys have.

LVTdude's GIANTS

C J.P. Arencibia, Tor
1B Brandon Belt, SF
2B Jemile Weeks, Oak
3B Pablo Sandoval, SF
SS Asdrubal Cabrera, Cle
MI Brandon Crawford, SF
CI Alex Rodriguez, NYY
LF Seth Smith, Col
CF Shane Victorino, Phi
RF Jayson Werth, Was
OF Chris Young, Ari
UT Carlos Beltran, Stl
B Ryan Ludwick, Pit
B Aubrey Huff, SF
DL Stephen Drew, Ari

SP Tim Lincecum, SF
SP Matt Cain, SF
SP Michael Pineda, Sea
P Jonathan Sanchez, SF
P Justin Masterson, Cle
P Josh Collmenter, Ari
RP Brian Wilson, SF
RP Ryan Madson, Phi
RP Sergio Romo, SF
B Eric Surkamp, SF
B Javier Lopez, SF

Likely Cuts:
Daric Barton, Oak
Aaron Harang, SD

Potential Giants to make roster:
Brett Pill, SF
Gary Brown, SF

Looking for:
A good 1B
A decent closer
A good LF
A good MI, if Drew isn't healed
A trade partner for A-Rod, since I don't like him, regardless of his stats.

I know I don't technically own the team yet, but I'm open to any trade ideas anyone wants to throw at me.

[Mudge]

Well, this looks like what I'm working with. I'm curious to see what dollar values these guys have.

LVTdude's GIANTS

C J.P. Arencibia, Tor
1B Brandon Belt, SF
2B Jemile Weeks, Oak
3B Pablo Sandoval, SF
SS Asdrubal Cabrera, Cle
MI Brandon Crawford, SF
CI Alex Rodriguez, NYY
LF Seth Smith, Col
CF Shane Victorino, Phi
RF Jayson Werth, Was
OF Chris Young, Ari
UT Carlos Beltran, Stl
B Ryan Ludwick, Pit
B Aubrey Huff, SF
DL Stephen Drew, Ari

SP Tim Lincecum, SF
SP Matt Cain, SF
SP Michael Pineda, Sea
P Jonathan Sanchez, SF
P Justin Masterson, Cle
P Josh Collmenter, Ari
RP Brian Wilson, SF
RP Ryan Madson, Phi
RP Sergio Romo, SF
B Eric Surkamp, SF
B Javier Lopez, SF

Likely Cuts:
Daric Barton, Oak
Aaron Harang, SD

Potential Giants to make roster:
Brett Pill, SF
Gary Brown, SF

Looking for:
A good 1B
A decent closer
A good LF
A good MI, if Drew isn't healed
A trade partner for A-Rod, since I don't like him, regardless of his stats.

I know I don't technically own the team yet, but I'm open to any trade ideas anyone wants to throw at me.

Great to have you aboard LVTdude. One thing I want you to know further about your decision. You have picked the Giants as they are currently configured, which is great. However, as a new owner, you may choose to affiliate with a different MLB team than the Giants (one that is not already in the league of course). You then get first rights to every man on that team's 40-man roster who is not already on another team in the league.

For example, you keep the same team you have and change your affiliation to the Royals. You would then have rights to all those Royals players who are not on other teams. Naturally you then lose your rights to Giants players not on other teams, but your currently configured team remains, at least until we make our first cuts based on the RotoWire values -- when they come out.

[Mudge]

I'll give this another try, if you'll have me.

Thanks. We have one other guy before you who expressed interest. Let me see if that pans out.

[puhpow]

Whats up fellas?

Roland here. Looking forward to joining you guys and having a great season. I plan on changing my home team from Orioles to another one. Need to see whats already taken and go from there. I also have never used this website so I am a rookie. Good luck!

Roland

[puhpow]

Hey guys, Roland here. Just want to say thanks for having me. Can someone change my team name to Stealing 2nd?

[Mudge]

Whats up fellas?

Roland here. Looking forward to joining you guys and having a great season. I plan on changing my home team from Orioles to another one. Need to see whats already taken and go from there. I also have never used this website so I am a rookie. Good luck!

Roland

Roland. Great to have you aboard. Just let me know what you team you want to affiliate with.

ALL RIGHT! We are filled. 10 teams, ready to go (more or less). The next major event on our schedule is to see the RotoWire values for our respective teams. It would appear that Diamond Draft values are a reasonable guide at this point. (http://www.diamonddraft.com). NOTE: nevertheless, these value are NOT the ones we will use; they are only a potential guidepost. And keep in mind that we do OPS, not BA. Otherwise it's standard 5X5.

[Mudge]

Hey guys, Roland here. Just want to say thanks for having me. Can someone change my team name to Stealing 2nd?

I'll change your name, but I'll have to add your "affiliated team", so that we have an easy reference when we are looking at players to pick up.

[Mudge]

Sorry for the edit, but Kuroda's name was all jacked up lol

i agree to this

OK. Sorry I missed it.

Cubs Fan. I think this means that you have 26 guys on your roster. You need to drop someone in order to make place for 2 new guys.

By the way, let's keep all trade stuff on the other thread. (http://baseballnation.net/showthread.php?4331-Trading-Place-(Early)-2012-Dynasty-League/page2). I'll transfer it all over here when finalized.

[universobeisbol]

Hello:
Just out of curiousity, what do I have to do to join??
Greetings

[WilsonC]

Mudge, could I get clarification on how the 40-man roster home team rights work? The reason I'm asking is that I'm noticing a few young Braves players (Minor, Freehan, Teheran at first glance) that weren't picked in the rule 5 draft but are on other rosters. Was it an oversight that the players were added to the other teams, or am I misreading the rule regarding 40-man control?

[Mudge]

Hello:
Just out of curiousity, what do I have to do to join??
Greetings

Right now, we are full. There is a chance that we will be starting up another league -- if there is enough interest.

Stay tuned!

[Mudge]

Mudge, could I get clarification on how the 40-man roster home team rights work? The reason I'm asking is that I'm noticing a few young Braves players (Minor, Freehan, Teheran at first glance) that weren't picked in the rule 5 draft but are on other rosters. Was it an oversight that the players were added to the other teams, or am I misreading the rule regarding 40-man control?

A VERY good question, and one which I have to search the archives to find out the answer to.

If I am not mistaken, we agreed that teams could NOT pick up free agents from "affiliated" teams. In practice, however, it would appear that certain players -- like those you mentioned -- were in fact picked up during the course of the year, without some kind of compensation to the owner. (By the way, I must confess that I am one of them, having picked up Teheran in preparation for 2012 and at the same time completely ignoring the fact that he was BRAVES property).

Unless there was some amendment, and if we are to stick with the rules, I'm afraid, therefore, that I must drop him. The same goes for Minor and Freehan, right?

I've got some work to do because there are a lot of potentially similar cases.

[Mudge]

I have underlined the questionable players on the lineups at the top of the page.

Now some of them may have been acquired in the Rule 5 draft (Ortiz?) and some by trade (Young?), but others clearly slipped through the cracks in the craziness last year.

Again, I'll have to do the research on all these guys, but I know that I picked up Teheran illegally, so I must drop him and select another player.

[astrosfanatic]

A VERY good question, and one which I have to search the archives to find out the answer to.

If I am not mistaken, we agreed that teams could NOT pick up free agents from "affiliated" teams. In practice, however, it would appear that certain players -- like those you mentioned -- were in fact picked up during the course of the year, without some kind of compensation to the owner. (By the way, I must confess that I am one of them, having picked up Teheran in preparation for 2012 and at the same time completely ignoring the fact that he was BRAVES property).

Unless there was some amendment, and if we are to stick with the rules, I'm afraid, therefore, that I must drop him. The same goes for Minor and Freehan, right?

I've got some work to do because there are a lot of potentially similar cases.

my assumption the whole year was that if a player was not protected pre-draft, they would then be available to any team....

[Mudge]

my assumption the whole year was that if a player was not protected pre-draft, they would then be available to any team....

That's what I am researching.

"After the Rule 5 Draft and the FINAL ESPN ROSTERS are set, you maintain the rights to every player on your HOME TEAM's 40-man roster who is not on another team." see post #1 http://baseballnation.net/showthread.php?1001-2011-Fantasy-Dynasty-FAQ-Rules

I'm looking to see if we amended that (I don't think we did).

[LVTdude]

I will change my team affiliation then. My first thought was the Royals, but it looks like Roland is a Royals fan, and I won't swipe his team from him.

I'll take the Rockies.

[Mudge]

I will change my team affiliation then. My first thought was the Royals, but it looks like Roland is a Royals fan, and I won't swipe his team from him.

I'll take the Rockies.

I can hold off until he decides....

[LVTdude]

Ok, so these are the new Rockies. I can add anyone from the Rockies 40 man roster to this team, right? Then I have to cut it down to 25?
LVTdude's ROCKIES

C J.P. Arencibia, Tor
1B Aubrey Huff, SF
2B Jemile Weeks, Oak
3B Pablo Sandoval, SF
SS Asdrubal Cabrera, Cle
MI Stephen Drew, Ari
CI Alex Rodriguez, NYY
LF Seth Smith, Col
CF Shane Victorino, Phi
RF Jayson Werth, Was
OF Chris Young, Ari
UT Carlos Beltran, Stl
B Ryan Ludwick, Pit
B Daric Barton, Oak


P Tim Lincecum, SF
P Matt Cain, SF
P Michael Pineda, Sea
SP Jonathan Sanchez, SF
SP Justin Masterson, Cle
SP Josh Collmenter, Ari
RP Brian Wilson, SF
RP Ryan Madson, Phi
RP Sergio Romo, SF
B Aaron Harang, LA
B Javier Lopez, SF

Looking for:
A good 1B
A decent closer
A good LF
A good MI, if Drew isn't healed
A trade partner for A-Rod, since I don't like him, regardless of his stats.

[astrosfanatic]

That's what I am researching.

"After the Rule 5 Draft and the FINAL ESPN ROSTERS are set, you maintain the rights to every player on your HOME TEAM's 40-man roster who is not on another team." see post #1 http://baseballnation.net/showthread.php?1001-2011-Fantasy-Dynasty-FAQ-Rules

I'm looking to see if we amended that (I don't think we did).

but then in the rule V draft (http://baseballnation.net/showthread.php?1305-Rule-5-Draft) teams were allowed to draft those left off rosters. i remember i drafted David Ortiz

i guess it doesnt matter either way, but there are some Marlins out there i would like to get back if this is the case...

[WilsonC]

I know I was operating under impression that (assuming they passed through the rule 5) I could use the season to monitor the progress of some of the young guns without rostering them and then making a decision for 2012. If that's the case, it might not hurt for all of us to go through and see if there's anyone who we think we should have rights to (using last year's home team of course, for those that switched with new owners) and flag them for review.

[LVTdude]

Are players not on the 40 man roster off-limits, I assume? I don't have to worry about protecting kids in A-ball, right?

[LVTdude]

Hey Mike, are you aware your quote credits "Bill" Durham, not Bull Durham? :oops:

[Cubs Fan]

I drop Gordon Beckam then.

[LVTdude]

Hey guys, how many games need to be played to qualify at a position?

[astrosfanatic]

Hey Mike, are you aware your quote credits "Bill" Durham, not Bull Durham? :oops:

haha...never noticed it. thx.

Okay Mudge, i will list my questions here....

1) A few of us, myself included, added players from other teams 40-man rosters last year and then turned around and traded them to get other players. For Example: the Orioles, in 2 seperate deals, traded Logan Morrison and Gaby Sanchez to acquire other players from the Dodgers. Both Logan and Gaby should have never been added to the Orioles team to start with, but were flipped for other "addable players"....so now, if we just return all players to original teams, the Dodgers owner loses out on what they received from that deal and they lose a player (LoMo in this case). I see this as a problem

2) Then there are players like Madison Bumgarner on my roster who was a Giant last year, but the new owner has chosen another "home team". I am guessing he gets returned since he was a Giant last year?

3) the biggest issue i see with this is, this issue should have been raised last year when these adds/drops were being made if they were in violation of the rules. I added Posey to my roster and basically lost a DL spot for an entire year assuming that he would be mine this year. I wasnt able to make moves last year to make my team better because i was stashing a player that i would never be able to keep. I see that as a problem.

I am in favor of all teams being in control of their 40-man rosters going from this point forward. (no other teams can add/drop their team's players). I would think it best to grandfather all already added players b/c of the reasons i already listed.

You are the commish, and i will go by whatever ruling is made.

[LVTdude]

Any chance I get Tulowitzki out of all this? :wink: :kidding::biggrin:

[puhpow]

I will change my team affiliation then. My first thought was the Royals, but it looks like Roland is a Royals fan, and I won't swipe his team from him.

I'll take the Rockies.

Just wanted to say thanks on this. Give me the Royals as my home team. Team name Stealing 2nd.

Also, feel free to email me for any trade offers. rolandsneed@yahoo.com

[Cubs Fan]

Just so you know puhpow, there is a feature on here called Private Messaging. (Short:PM) And we always use that to do trade offers. In fact if you ever get one, it will say at the top or it might have a pop up. Or to send on there should be a button near the top that says "Private Messaging" where you can send a PM.

[LVTdude]

Just wanted to say thanks on this. Give me the Royals as my home team. Team name Stealing 2nd.

Also, feel free to email me for any trade offers. rolandsneed@yahoo.com

No problem, Roland. Enjoy Hosmer. He's going to be a stud.

Also, I don't want to act like this was an entirely selfless move. I am looking forward to Nolan Arenado being a stud for me. :)

[puhpow]

Just so you know puhpow, there is a feature on here called Private Messaging. (Short:PM) And we always use that to do trade offers. In fact if you ever get one, it will say at the top or it might have a pop up. Or to send on there should be a button near the top that says "Private Messaging" where you can send a PM.

Gotcha! But email works better for me, especially when I am on the go. That happens a lot for me. Very busy with work and the family, not to mention all my other leagues. Lol

[puhpow]

No problem, Roland. Enjoy Hosmer. He's going to be a stud.

Also, I don't want to act like this was an entirely selfless move. I am looking forward to Nolan Arenado being a stud for me. :)

:) Thank you sir! Good luck!!!

[LarryBud]

Mudge,

It does look like I picked up Kevin Gregg in error. I would like to drop him immediately and apologize for the error.

[LarryBud]

And Michael Young was traded off the my team last season so he should remain on his current roster.

[Cubs Fan]

Good to see the league getting so much new members.

[Mudge]

but then in the rule V draft (http://baseballnation.net/showthread.php?1305-Rule-5-Draft) teams were allowed to draft those left off rosters. i remember i drafted David Ortiz

Right. It reads "After the Rule 5 draft, so you could take someone like Ortiz. I underlined him with a ? because I was not sure whether he had gone in the Rule 5 (he did, and that's OK). Some of the others were legitimately traded.


i guess it doesnt matter either way, but there are some Marlins out there i would like to get back if this is the case...
I'll make a ruling.

[Cubs Fan]

So, all league teams have been filled?

[Mudge]

I am in favor of all teams being in control of their 40-man rosters going from this point forward. (no other teams can add/drop their team's players). I would think it best to grandfather all already added players b/c of the reasons i already listed.

You are the commish, and i will go by whatever ruling is made.

I think I have to agree. The gaps and mistakes are understandable, given some of the first-year growing pains we had as a league (you might recall that several owners bailed, and we were busy dealing with that).

So, all so-called illegally gained players are grandfathered on their current teams EXCEPT Julio Teheran, who is on my team. I am the commissioner, and I should have known better. He goes back to the BRAVES.

[Cubs Fan]

Who is Stealing 2nd? Is that a member's screenname?

[LarryBud]

I am very willing to give up Gregg. I did win last season and don't want to keep a player that another team should have.

[LarryBud]

Who is Stealing 2nd? Is that a member's screenname?
It is puhpow

[WilsonC]

The Astrofish and I have agreed to a trade of Freddy Freeman for Paul Goldschmidt.

I'm fine with the call, but I think there needs to be clarification on how it works going forward. Specifically:
1. Does the home team preserve rights to minor league players who are added to the roster during the season,
2. Does the home team preserve rights to a home-team player who is dropped during the season (for instance, if someone's slumping or hurt, can you temporarily drop that player and still preserve the rights), and
3. What's the procedure if someone accidentally adds an ineligible player to the roster?

[Mudge]

Are players not on the 40 man roster off-limits, I assume? I don't have to worry about protecting kids in A-ball, right?

You are right about that.


So, all league teams have been filled?

Indeed. We are set to go, as soon as we get the RotoWire values.


Mudge,

It does look like I picked up Kevin Gregg in error. I would like to drop him immediately and apologize for the error.

See my recent post.


And Michael Young was traded off the my team last season so he should remain on his current roster.

Likewise, he's okay.

[Mudge]

Any chance I get Tulowitzki out of all this? :wink: :kidding::biggrin:

Ha! No way.

[Mudge]

The Astrofish and I have agreed to a trade of Freddy Freeman for Paul Goldschmidt.

As sson as af confirms, I will record.


I'm fine with the call, but I think there needs to be clarification on how it works going forward. Specifically:
1. Does the home team preserve rights to minor league players who are added to the roster during the season -- YES
2. Does the home team preserve rights to a home-team player who is dropped during the season (for instance, if someone's slumping or hurt, can you temporarily drop that player and still preserve the rights) -- YES
3. What's the procedure if someone accidentally adds an ineligible player to the roster? A SPANKING?

[astrosfanatic]

AstroFish...I like it.

we are good on that deal....Schmitty is an Astrofish

[Cubs Fan]

Heh "Astrofish" Ha, did you get my counter trade offer via PM

[Mudge]

AstroFish...I like it.

we are good on that deal....Schmitty is an Astrofish

Okay. Consider it recorded.

NOTE TO ALL: Please go through your current rosters as they are configured. http://baseballnation.net/showthread.php?4384-Dynasty-League-Rules-and-Rosters-2012 Let me know by Wednesday if there are ANY problems. Otherwise, they are set in stone, for better or for worse. Thanks

[LVTdude]

Okay. Consider it recorded.

NOTE TO ALL: Please go through your current rosters as they are configured. http://baseballnation.net/showthread.php?4384-Dynasty-League-Rules-and-Rosters-2012 Let me know by Wednesday if there are ANY problems. Otherwise, they are set in stone, for better or for worse. Thanks

I posted my desired changes on the roster page. Let me know if I'm doing anything wrong.

[SHK]

Spots still available?

[astrosfanatic]

Spots still available?

dude. you're killing me. Where were you a week ago??? lol. unfortunately (but fortunately) we are full! I guess we can keep you posted

[Cubs Fan]

dude. you're killing me. Where were you a week ago??? lol. unfortunately (but fortunately) we are full! I guess we can keep you posted

He was here a week ago about to join then he just vanished. But yeah sadly we got no spots open but like "Astrofish" said we're keep you posted!

[LVTdude]

ALERT! This page says 2012 values at the top!

http://www.rotowire.com/baseball/dollarvalues_bat.htm (http://www.rotowire.com/baseball/dollarvalues_bat.htm)

[LVTdude]

League:1
Teams:10 Hitters:14
Salary Cap:260 Batting Pct:65%
Categories:HomeRuns, RBI, StolenBases, Runs, obp


Name Pos $ AB H HR RBI R SB AVG SLG OBP
Cabrera, Miguel (DET) 1B 34.09 569 192 34 112 109 3 .337 .596 .432
Kemp, Matt (LA) OF 33.12 604 183 37 116 107 34 .303 .555 .373
Pujols, Albert (ANA) 1B 32.90 580 179 40 111 112 11 .309 .579 .396
Bautista, Jose (TOR) 3B 32.02 524 147 44 104 102 8 .281 .595 .414
Votto, Joey (CIN) 1B 31.45 584 184 32 108 104 10 .315 .555 .416
Fielder, Prince () 1B 29.12 583 168 37 119 96 1 .288 .540 .402
Gonzalez, Adrian (BOS) 1B 27.58 604 191 31 109 103 0 .316 .540 .402
Longoria, Evan (TB) 3B 27.38 578 164 34 119 105 9 .284 .545 .374
Upton, Justin (AZ) OF 26.41 576 171 36 93 100 24 .297 .568 .374
Gonzalez, Carlos (COL) OF 25.59 551 171 30 103 105 24 .310 .550 .366
Tulowitzki, Troy (COL) SS 24.04 563 171 32 109 95 12 .304 .552 .374
Ellsbury, Jacoby (BOS) OF 23.69 630 194 22 80 107 43 .308 .498 .358
Pedroia, Dustin (BOS) 2B 23.17 627 189 20 85 105 23 .301 .469 .381
Granderson, C(NY-A) OF 22.21 552 141 34 94 109 20 .255 .514 .341
Cano, Robinson (NY-A) 2B 22.04 627 195 31 110 103 6 .311 .550 .355
McCutchen, An (PIT) OF 21.70 572 160 22 83 100 29 .280 .483 .372
Teixeira, Mark (NY-A) 1B 21.46 595 153 37 112 100 2 .257 .501 .348
Stanton, Mike (MIA) OF 21.21 552 148 40 104 89 6 .268 .562 .359
Ramirez, Hanley (MIA) SS 20.67 535 158 21 87 95 30 .295 .479 .371
Gordon, Alex (KC) OF 20.67 562 170 24 83 102 13 .302 .514 .381
Choo, Shin-Soo (CLE) OF 20.51 552 162 23 90 87 23 .293 .489 .382
Kinsler, Ian (TEX) 2B 20.45 583 153 26 74 111 27 .262 .461 .351
Holliday, Matt (STL) OF 19.61 541 165 25 94 93 7 .305 .523 .383
Santana, Carlos (CLE) C 19.55 515 136 28 90 91 6 .264 .507 .387
Bruce, Jay (CIN) OF 19.34 567 155 34 98 92 7 .273 .513 .357
Wright, David (NY-N) 3B 19.33 548 152 25 96 93 20 .277 .484 .359
Konerko, Paul (CHI-A) 1B 19.29 545 164 33 105 77 1 .301 .538 .382
Lawrie, Brett (TOR) 3B 16.97 576 165 23 86 98 25 .286 .497 .341
Cuddyer, Michael (COL) OF 16.54 566 162 28 93 97 8 .286 .512 .346
Jennings, Desmond (TB) OF 16.42 534 144 16 56 102 43 .270 .438 .352
Zobrist, Ben (TB) 2B 15.90 558 147 18 86 91 20 .263 .444 .361
Upton, B.J. (TB) OF 15.78 555 139 23 84 85 38 .250 .452 .334
Pence, Hunter (PHI) OF 15.61 601 180 23 90 87 11 .300 .483 .360
Hamilton, Josh (TEX) OF 15.36 493 156 26 93 82 8 .316 .558 .367
Reyes, Jose (MIA) SS 14.97 595 184 10 54 100 41 .309 .466 .359
Zimmerman, R (WAS) 3B 14.75 569 168 24 85 87 3 .295 .483 .369
Swisher, Nick (NY-A) OF 14.09 535 144 26 86 85 1 .269 .479 .367
Beltre, Adrian (TEX) 3B 13.93 515 155 30 99 82 4 .301 .555 .344
Ortiz, David (BOS) DH 13.91 499 142 27 89 75 1 .285 .515 .378
Rodriguez, Alex (NY-A) 3B 13.58 474 131 25 97 78 6 .276 .492 .360
Berkman, Lance (STL) 1B 13.55 455 128 24 80 73 3 .281 .497 .398
Werth, Jayson (WAS) OF 13.50 560 145 25 74 86 17 .259 .455 .352
Andrus, Elvis (TEX) SS 13.46 570 161 7 58 101 39 .282 .381 .353
Youkilis, Kevin (BOS) 3B 13.44 460 129 21 84 84 4 .280 .500 .379
Uggla, Dan (ATL) 2B 13.34 590 146 34 91 91 2 .247 .468 .329
Heyward, Jason (ATL) OF 13.24 491 141 20 69 80 12 .287 .485 .387
Ethier, Andre (LA) OF 13.20 538 157 24 87 83 2 .292 .498 .365
Ramirez, Aramis (MIL) 3B 13.10 510 154 27 98 78 1 .302 .525 .356
Morrison, Logan (MIA) OF 13.06 530 146 21 83 81 3 .275 .485 .377
Reynolds, Mark (BAL) 3B 12.65 530 117 36 88 85 9 .221 .474 .321
Davis, Ike (NY-N) 1B 12.37 515 144 29 81 75 2 .280 .520 .367
Jeter, Derek (NY-A) SS 12.04 626 184 9 67 101 20 .294 .391 .354
Castro, Starl (CHI-N) SS 11.92 641 196 15 70 93 24 .306 .462 .344
Butler, Billy (KC) DH 11.46 600 181 18 89 75 1 .302 .468 .371
Cruz, Nelson (TEX) OF 11.34 488 136 30 90 70 15 .279 .533 .335
Phillips, Brand(CIN) 2B 11.27 611 176 18 77 93 17 .288 .447 .337
Hosmer, Eric (KC) 1B 11.25 571 166 23 85 79 12 .291 .476 .345
Utley, Chase (PHI) 2B 11.19 523 141 19 71 85 18 .270 .447 .351
Weeks, Rickie (MIL) 2B 11.09 547 145 24 64 95 12 .265 .463 .341
Bourn, Michael (ATL) OF 11.03 607 173 2 43 91 58 .285 .374 .346
Markakis, Nick (BAL) OF 11.01 635 185 16 79 81 10 .291 .441 .360
Braun, Ryan (MIL) OF 10.96 398 127 20 73 72 16 .319 .553 .378
Young, Chris (AZ) OF 10.90 550 133 22 73 85 23 .242 .436 .333
Victorino, Shane (PHI) OF 10.66 559 153 16 64 93 25 .274 .462 .339
Goldschmidt, Paul (AZ) 1B 10.43 453 116 26 84 81 8 .256 .497 .338
Young, Michael (TEX) 3B 10.38 624 192 13 90 81 6 .308 .442 .357
Posey, Buster (SF) C 10.34 534 163 20 84 73 3 .305 .476 .368
Stubbs, Drew (CIN) OF 10.33 571 144 17 57 91 39 .252 .396 .324
Martinez, Victor (DET) C 10.31 532 163 17 96 74 0 .306 .470 .365
Jones, Adam (BAL) OF 9.97 581 168 26 87 81 11 .289 .485 .326
Crawford, Carl (BOS) OF 9.92 571 161 14 73 89 31 .282 .443 .326
Pena, Carlos () 1B 9.71 485 105 29 85 73 3 .216 .454 .344
Hart, Corey (MIL) OF 9.57 502 141 25 74 81 8 .281 .502 .344
Abreu, Bobby (ANA) OF 8.95 519 139 11 73 72 18 .268 .403 .369
Sanchez, Gaby (MIA) 1B 8.84 582 157 21 84 76 4 .270 .442 .347
Joyce, Matt (TB) OF 8.70 465 126 19 77 71 12 .271 .480 .358
Mauer, Joe (MIN) C 8.69 486 156 11 67 77 1 .321 .459 .396
Gardner, Brett (NY-A) OF 8.65 475 126 6 39 87 46 .265 .375 .351
Sandoval, Pablo (SF) 3B 8.36 567 170 23 81 70 3 .300 .499 .352
Maybin, Cameron (SD) OF 8.10 547 149 11 52 89 33 .272 .413 .337
Beltran, Carlos (STL) OF 7.83 462 136 18 71 65 6 .294 .502 .380
Hunter, Torii (ANA) OF 7.76 528 145 20 81 73 8 .275 .441 .344
Fowler, Dexter (COL) OF 7.72 479 133 7 47 90 17 .278 .451 .374
Avila, Alex (DET) C 7.62 430 124 18 75 61 3 .288 .498 .389
Willingham, Josh (MIN) OF 7.60 478 122 26 85 70 5 .255 .477 .335
Bay, Jason (NY-N) OF 7.58 465 118 18 77 75 12 .254 .432 .344
Morse, Mike (WAS) OF 7.50 490 141 27 88 67 1 .288 .514 .339
McCann, Brian (ATL) C 7.22 474 131 26 78 60 3 .276 .498 .359
Napoli, Mike (TEX) C 7.21 399 112 27 70 66 3 .281 .544 .361
Walker, Neil (PIT) 2B 7.09 581 163 15 87 75 9 .281 .439 .339
Wells, Vernon (ANA) OF 6.99 554 149 27 80 77 10 .269 .478 .316
Cabrera, Asd (CLE) SS 6.96 590 165 17 77 80 15 .280 .444 .329
Espinosa, Danny (WAS) 2B 6.93 535 133 22 73 77 19 .249 .439 .320
Rollins, Jimmy (PHI) SS 6.80 559 144 15 63 83 28 .258 .395 .323
Kipnis, Jason (CLE) 2B 6.58 508 142 16 67 79 13 .280 .457 .343
Rasmus, Colby (TOR) OF 6.28 489 127 19 63 85 8 .260 .454 .337
Freeman, Freddie (ATL) 1B 6.23 525 150 20 75 69 5 .286 .465 .349
Bourjos, Peter (ANA) OF 6.20 543 151 15 53 84 30 .278 .459 .324
Jackson, Austin (DET) OF 6.14 610 166 9 49 95 25 .272 .400 .332
Belt, Brandon (SF) 1B 6.01 375 108 18 61 60 11 .288 .515 .386
Pagan, Angel (SF) OF 5.73 528 146 9 61 76 33 .277 .403 .332
Weeks, Jemile (OAK) 2B 5.53 623 175 6 62 82 32 .281 .414 .329
Lee, Derrek () 1B 5.33 489 133 22 75 69 1 .272 .464 .344
Suzuki, Ichiro (SEA) OF 5.27 675 198 6 45 83 38 .293 .367 .334
Montero, Jesus (NY-A) C 5.22 445 133 22 77 60 0 .299 .510 .359
Cabrera, Melky (SF) OF 5.10 563 162 13 69 79 14 .288 .435 .334
Cespedes, Yoenis () OF 5.01 481 131 18 68 73 22 .272 .472 .319
Trumbo, Mark (ANA) 1B 4.96 510 137 26 89 66 7 .269 .488 .312
LaHair, Bryan (CHI-N) 1B 4.87 432 118 23 75 67 0 .273 .498 .344
Gordon, Dee (LA) SS 4.78 587 167 1 34 86 58 .284 .351 .320
Wieters, Matt (BAL) C 4.66 499 136 23 75 65 1 .273 .471 .342
Montero, Miguel (AZ) C 4.64 454 127 20 81 66 1 .280 .487 .342
Brantley, Michael (CLE) OF 4.59 557 154 8 54 86 21 .276 .391 .336
Crisp, Coco (OAK) OF 4.28 471 125 9 50 68 45 .265 .397 .326
Ramirez, Alexei (CHI-A) SS 4.15 592 163 16 70 80 10 .275 .410 .324
Kendrick, Howie (ANA) 2B 3.92 563 160 15 70 79 13 .284 .442 .322
Ackley, Dustin (SEA) 2B 3.88 494 138 11 55 70 11 .279 .435 .363
Johnson, Kelly (TOR) 2B 3.86 518 127 20 57 76 14 .245 .440 .326
Roberts, Ryan (AZ) 2B 3.71 456 113 15 58 75 15 .248 .410 .335
Cain, Lorenzo (KC) OF 3.68 481 140 9 55 75 21 .291 .424 .343
Lee, Carlos (HOU) OF 3.53 596 161 20 89 63 3 .270 .436 .326
Dunn, Adam (CHI-A) 1B 3.22 485 106 27 73 60 0 .219 .437 .333
Francoeur, Jeff (KC) OF 2.90 551 151 17 78 68 15 .274 .445 .314
Damon, Johnny () OF 2.68 519 129 14 62 78 14 .249 .407 .322
Boesch, Brennan (DET) OF 2.64 466 128 18 68 70 7 .275 .459 .328
Prado, Martin (ATL) OF 2.61 589 168 14 63 82 4 .285 .423 .330
Scutaro, Marco (BOS) SS 2.55 504 144 9 56 77 6 .286 .407 .353
Lind, Adam (TOR) 1B 2.25 537 137 27 88 63 0 .255 .458 .306
Escobar, Yunel (TOR) SS 2.09 525 148 10 51 76 4 .282 .390 .356
Duda, Lucas (NY-N) OF 2.07 403 115 16 68 56 1 .285 .489 .366
Loney, James (LA) 1B 2.06 558 156 12 77 63 6 .280 .410 .339
Drew, Stephen (AZ) SS 1.95 525 139 12 65 74 8 .265 .432 .332
Martinez, J.D. (HOU) OF 1.71 542 154 13 71 73 2 .284 .417 .332
Lowrie, Jed (HOU) SS 1.67 468 123 15 64 72 3 .263 .436 .335
Sands, Jerry (LA) 1B 1.67 419 110 18 67 62 7 .263 .458 .334
Jones, Chipper (ATL) 3B 1.38 414 112 15 62 57 1 .271 .444 .367
Hardy, J.J. (BAL) SS 1.21 0 510 134 23 70 71 0 .263 .453 .313
Carp, Mike (SEA) 1B 0.94 0 399 112 20 69 55 1 .281 .491 .343
Headley, Chase (SD) 3B 0.93 0 528 144 8 57 63 15 .273 .384 .347
Pierre, Juan () OF 0.82 0 554 155 1 42 75 38 .280 .329 .326
Gamel, Mat (MIL) 1B 0.76 0 367 104 16 66 57 1 .283 .477 .355
Span, Denard (MIN) OF 0.55 0 538 147 4 46 76 19 .273 .364 .340
Kubel, Jason (AZ) OF 0.43 122 441 119 18 77 53 1 .270 .456 .336
Young, Delmon (DET) OF 0.43 0 517 146 16 83 64 3 .282 .437 .314
Chisenhall, Lonnie (CLE) 3B 0.41 0 444 118 16 68 72 2 .266 .444 .318
Sizemore, Scott (OAK) 3B 0.38 0 417 110 12 57 63 7 .264 .420 .350
Reimold, Nolan (BAL) OF 0.29 0 373 97 17 59 56 8 .260 .445 .344
Craig, Allen (STL) OF 0.20 0 321 99 16 64 52 3 .308 .533 .362
Aybar, Erick (ANA) SS 0.15 0 567 156 8 51 74 26 .275 .392 .316
Moustakas, Mike (KC) 3B 0.12 0 553 152 17 77 62 5 .275 .429 .317

[LVTdude]

eams:10 Pitchers:11
Salary Cap:260 Batting Pct:65%
Categories:Wins, Saves, ERA, Whip, Strikeouts
Name $ G W SV IP H HR BB K ERA WHIP
Halladay, Roy (PHI) 29.63 34 17 0 238 211 15 33 218 2.46 1.025
Kershaw, Clayton (LA) 27.65 34 19 0 236 181 16 67 239 2.71 1.051
Hamels, Cole (PHI) 25.77 33 20 0 221 175 23 51 208 2.85 1.023
Lee, Cliff (PHI) 25.62 32 18 0 228 205 17 37 231 2.72 1.061
Verlander, Justin (DET) 21.90 34 20 0 236 198 25 66 238 3.01 1.119
Hernandez, Felix (SEA) 21.15 34 15 0 241 203 18 68 226 2.80 1.124
Price, David (TB) 18.32 33 18 0 218 185 19 64 221 3.01 1.142
Lincecum, Tim (SF) 17.69 33 16 0 219 177 14 79 228 2.88 1.169
Strasburg, Stephen (WAS) 16.59 30 13 0 171 151 13 43 208 2.58 1.135
Weaver, Jered (ANA) 16.06 33 16 0 228 205 24 57 206 3.12 1.149
Haren, Dan (ANA) 15.82 34 15 0 236 219 24 41 205 3.39 1.102
Johnson, Josh (MIA) 15.41 26 12 0 169 140 8 48 162 2.50 1.112
Sabathia, CC (NY-A) 15.05 33 20 0 235 221 18 65 212 3.10 1.217
Beckett, Josh (BOS) 14.27 31 15 0 203 168 22 54 178 3.33 1.094
Gallardo, Yovani (MIL) 13.97 33 18 0 211 193 24 61 218 3.16 1.204
Luebke, Cory (SD) 13.86 33 11 0 199 163 16 59 199 3.12 1.116
Hudson, Dan (AZ) 12.65 32 17 0 211 193 18 52 175 3.28 1.161
Cain, Matt (SF) 12.54 33 13 0 219 185 19 65 178 3.25 1.142
Lester, Jon (BOS) 12.49 32 18 0 202 171 17 72 197 3.21 1.203
Moore, Matt (TB) 12.27 31 14 0 173 137 13 67 183 2.91 1.179
Darvish, Yu () 12.25 31 13 0 201 169 18 62 191 3.22 1.149
Garza, Matt (CHI-N) 11.76 33 15 0 209 185 17 65 203 3.23 1.196
Latos, Mat (CIN) 11.44 33 13 0 199 169 21 61 194 3.30 1.156
Wilson, C.J. (ANA) 11.30 33 14 0 215 179 14 82 192 3.10 1.214
Kennedy, Ian (AZ) 11.03 31 14 0 194 164 20 58 173 3.34 1.144
Kimbrel, Craig (ATL) 10.75 72 5 41 73 42 3 40 121 2.10 1.123
Bumgarner, Madison (SF) 10.74 31 13 0 190 184 13 44 172 2.98 1.200
Hudson, Tim (ATL) 10.55 30 14 0 193 169 14 55 132 3.08 1.161
Pineda, Michael (SEA) 10.55 31 12 0 189 155 17 60 195 3.43 1.138
Romero, Ricky (TOR) 10.55 33 16 0 222 195 24 75 189 3.28 1.216
McCarthy, Brandon (OAK) 10.37 29 13 0 189 182 13 30 140 3.29 1.122
Kuroda, Hiroki () 9.52 29 13 0 185 175 20 45 150 3.06 1.189
Shields, James (TB) 9.24 33 15 0 240 225 32 60 210 3.68 1.188
Beachy, Brandon (ATL) 9.22 30 12 0 169 149 15 52 195 3.25 1.189
Papelbon, Jonathan (PHI) 8.55 65 4 38 66 48 4 19 88 2.45 1.015
Hanson, Tommy (ATL) 8.48 28 12 0 164 138 16 52 161 3.29 1.159
Axford, John (MIL) 8.47 71 4 43 70 55 3 24 83 2.19 1.129
Dickey, R.A. (NY-N) 8.42 33 11 0 211 198 20 49 137 3.24 1.171
Cueto, Johnny (CIN) 8.36 31 16 0 199 181 17 63 144 3.21 1.226
Storen, Drew (WAS) 8.19 70 4 44 72 59 6 18 76 2.63 1.069
Jansen, Kenley (LA) 8.10 56 3 34 61 32 2 31 105 2.21 1.033
Vazquez, Javier () 8.04 31 14 0 185 169 23 49 168 3.50 1.178
Greinke, Zack (MIL) 7.97 32 16 0 204 191 20 59 224 3.71 1.225
Rivera, Mariano (NY-A) 7.85 63 2 40 62 48 3 11 58 2.18 0.952
League, Brandon (SEA) 7.48 68 3 44 70 60 4 13 60 2.57 1.043
Wainwright, Adam (STL) 7.27 31 15 0 205 190 16 71 190 3.29 1.273
Zimmermann, Jordan (WAS) 7.17 29 11 0 172 160 14 40 146 3.35 1.163
Fister, Doug (DET) 6.68 30 12 0 193 191 13 34 122 3.40 1.166
Madson, Ryan () 6.59 65 5 36 62 49 3 18 68 2.47 1.081
Motte, Jason (STL) 6.34 70 4 35 61 45 4 17 60 2.51 1.016
Betancourt, Rafael (COL) 6.27 68 3 35 61 47 7 10 76 3.10 0.934
Sanchez, Anibal (MIA) 6.14 32 12 0 198 181 18 66 190 3.41 1.247
Ogando, Alexi (TEX) 5.71 32 14 0 186 171 18 48 140 3.68 1.177
Street, Huston (SD) 5.70 66 3 32 66 55 6 10 65 2.86 0.985
Lewis, Colby (TEX) 5.67 33 15 0 206 185 29 61 180 3.89 1.194
Rodriguez, Wandy (HOU) 5.62 32 12 0 203 191 22 65 175 3.33 1.261
Baker, Scott (MIN) 5.57 31 14 0 191 181 23 43 155 3.82 1.173
Putz, J.J. (AZ) 5.52 60 3 39 57 44 5 14 63 2.84 1.018
Clippard, Tyler (WAS) 5.30 73 6 1 85 53 9 31 95 2.86 0.988
Garcia, Jaime (STL) 5.17 33 14 0 206 204 16 55 171 3.50 1.257
Hanrahan, Joel (PIT) 4.85 71 3 38 70 59 3 21 70 2.83 1.143
Robertson, David (NY-A) 4.78 73 5 1 71 52 3 28 93 1.65 1.127
Adams, Mike (TEX) 4.77 73 4 2 71 51 6 15 69 2.28 0.930
Balfour, Grant (OAK) 4.38 64 4 23 65 48 6 21 68 2.63 1.062
Holland, Derek (TEX) 4.12 33 16 0 205 199 23 65 185 3.64 1.288
Oswalt, Roy () 3.94 27 8 0 170 161 15 42 134 3.39 1.194
Carpenter, Chris (STL) 3.71 33 14 0 228 229 21 61 188 3.67 1.272
Venters, Jonny (ATL) 3.68 83 5 4 86 61 4 42 94 2.20 1.198
Norris, Bud (HOU) 3.48 32 10 0 193 180 23 65 185 3.50 1.269
Wilson, Brian (SF) 3.41 64 3 39 63 53 3 28 72 2.57 1.286
Danks, John (CHI-A) 3.20 32 11 0 199 188 20 59 161 3.62 1.241
Romo, Sergio (SF) 3.16 63 4 4 50 35 3 9 65 2.16 0.880
Chacin, Jhoulys (COL) 3.03 32 12 0 183 155 17 81 155 3.39 1.290
Bailey, Andrew (BOS) 2.98 48 2 30 50 38 3 15 53 2.52 1.060
Nathan, Joe (TEX) 2.97 68 2 40 62 51 7 17 69 3.63 1.097
Gonzalez, Gio (WAS) 2.96 33 15 0 205 187 18 88 191 3.47 1.341
Benoit, Joaquin (DET) 2.85 65 5 1 63 45 4 16 68 2.57 0.968
Cahill, Trevor (AZ) 2.84 33 15 0 204 191 22 70 167 3.71 1.279
Peralta, Joel (TB) 2.82 68 4 15 64 45 6 23 63 2.67 1.063
Hellickson, Jeremy (TB) 2.53 32 12 0 204 179 26 75 138 3.62 1.245
Thornton, Matt (CHI-A) 2.52 64 4 19 63 55 3 18 69 2.57 1.159
Perez, Chris (CLE) 2.47 60 3 33 58 45 4 21 50 2.95 1.138
Jurrjens, Jair (ATL) 2.46 26 12 0 164 155 15 53 108 3.29 1.268
Marshall, Sean (CIN) 2.46 75 4 22 73 64 5 19 77 3.21 1.137
Lilly, Ted (LA) 2.36 32 11 0 188 173 29 53 148 3.88 1.202
Scherzer, Max (DET) 2.36 33 16 0 198 193 23 65 188 3.82 1.303
Soria, Joakim (KC) 2.33 61 1 34 62 53 5 19 64 2.90 1.161
Santos, Sergio (TOR) 2.28 67 3 33 68 53 5 28 83 3.44 1.191
Stauffer, Tim (SD) 2.07 30 8 0 167 156 15 50 117 3.34 1.234
Worley, Vance (PHI) 1.98 26 11 0 156 153 13 48 124 3.29 1.288
Floyd, Gavin (CHI-A) 1.85 31 13 0 195 185 19 48 157 4.15 1.195
Holland, Greg (KC) 1.84 54 4 3 74 53 5 29 89 2.80 1.108
Johnson, Jim (BAL) 1.79 65 3 29 79 75 5 19 53 3.08 1.190
Pestano, Vinnie (CLE) 1.71 71 2 5 68 49 6 22 85 2.78 1.044
Buehrle, Mark (MIA) 1.54 33 14 0 211 212 16 55 125 3.67 1.265
Lynn, Lance (STL) 1.52 44 6 0 81 68 6 24 79 2.89 1.136
Francisco, Frank (NY-N) 1.49 55 3 26 54 44 5 19 58 2.83 1.167
Moscoso, Guillermo (OAK) 1.49 27 9 0 159 140 16 50 113 3.68 1.195
Valverde, Jose (DET) 1.47 68 2 40 65 51 6 33 61 3.05 1.292
Aceves, Alfredo (BOS) 1.34 30 8 0 129 107 11 49 97 3.35 1.209
Santana, Ervin (ANA) 1.33 32 13 0 212 204 26 68 163 3.74 1.283
Downs, Scott (ANA) 1.22 60 5 2 55 43 3 14 41 2.13 1.036
Reed, Addison (CHI-A) 1.09 62 1 11 66 58 3 14 84 2.86 1.091
Walden, Jordan (ANA) 0.99 58 3 32 65 56 3 29 72 3.05 1.308
Salas, Fernando (STL) 0.88 64 5 2 72 58 6 24 70 2.75 1.139
O'Flaherty, Eric (ATL) 0.86 71 3 0 61 51 2 19 52 1.62 1.148
Jimenez, Ubaldo (CLE) 0.84 33 14 0 210 197 15 81 191 3.77 1.324
Rodriguez, Francisco (MIL) 0.78 70 5 5 69 60 3 23 75 2.61 1.203
Morrow, Brandon (TOR) 0.67 32 12 0 191 171 20 70 211 4.19 1.262
Bedard, Erik (PIT) 0.20 23 7 0 127 111 13 50 125 3.40 1.268
Marmol, Carlos (CHI-N) 0.12 76 2 39 73 55 3 45 94 3.58 1.370
Masterson, Justin (CLE) 0.09 31 11 0 203 195 13 71 161 3.64 1.310

[Mudge]

As currently configured, Mudge's BREWERS weigh in at $203.89.

[LVTdude]

I know you guys agreed to award Roland and me 3 free agents, after Mudge suggested 5, but consider that Mike offered the solution of giving back players like Madison Bumgarner and Mudge ruled to grandfather players like him. Therefore, a team like mine doesn't even get premier players that would otherwise belong to the franchise.

I'm asking for a 4th FA pick. Please reconsider. It's not like there are awesome free agents out there.

[Mudge]

I know you guys agreed to award Roland and me 3 free agents, after Mudge suggested 5, but consider that Mike offered the solution of giving back players like Madison Bumgarner and Mudge ruled to grandfather players like him. Therefore, a team like mine doesn't even get premier players that would otherwise belong to the franchise.

I'm asking for a 4th FA pick. Please reconsider. It's not like there are awesome free agents out there.

See my PM.

By the way Roland was not offered this option. He took over an active team (the Orioles). Cubs Fan, who took over the Dodgers (a team in lower position than yours), is the other owner involved.

[WilsonC]

The Braves currently check in at $247.5

[Mudge]

As currently configured, Mudge's BREWERS weigh in at $203.89.

One of my big savings is on Ryan Braun (listed at under $10. I guess RW figures he is (a) going to serve a suspension, and (b) might not be the powerhouse he was.

[astrosfanatic]

One of my big savings is on Ryan Braun (listed at under $10. I guess RW figures he is (a) going to serve a suspension, and (b) might not be the powerhouse he was.

I saw that and it ticked me off lol....but then i saw that Ryan Howard is $1 and i smiled real big. I guess it's good i havent traded him yet :)

[puhpow]

"By the way Roland was not offered this option. He took over an active team (the Orioles). Cubs Fan, who took over the Dodgers (a team in lower position than yours), is the other owner involved."

I was under the impression that I was going to get to take part in the rule 5. This is the first time I was told that I was taking over an active team. This should of been clarified at the beginning when I expressed interest, not now. It kinda sucks that I agree to take over someone else mess and don't get something to put my touch on it. Don't get me wrong...the team is in decent shape, but I should get to put my stamp on it some how right? So I have to rely on the free agents after the rule 5 is what your telling me?

[WilsonC]

"By the way Roland was not offered this option. He took over an active team (the Orioles). Cubs Fan, who took over the Dodgers (a team in lower position than yours), is the other owner involved."

I was under the impression that I was going to get to take part in the rule 5. This is the first time I was told that I was taking over an active team. This should of been clarified at the beginning when I expressed interest, not now. It kinda sucks that I agree to take over someone else mess and don't get something to put my touch on it. Don't get me wrong...the team is in decent shape, but I should get to put my stamp on it some how right? So I have to rely on the free agents after the rule 5 is what your telling me?

We all get to take part in the Rule 5 - that's not what he's referring to here, so no, that won't change. What Mudge was referring to here was that the inactive teams were at a bit of a disadvantage because most of us had the opportunity to do some September shuffling in preparation for 2012, whereas the abandoned teams didn't get to shuffle their deadweight. He's basically just giving those teams a chance to make up for the missed late-season shuffling moves before we enter into the roster-setting and rule 5 period.

[LarryBud]

One of my big savings is on Ryan Braun (listed at under $10. I guess RW figures he is (a) going to serve a suspension, and (b) might not be the powerhouse he was.

Couple of quick questions. Are these amounts the official ones we are going with for the Season? If so, are we rounding up to full dollars on all amounts?

My assumption is that these $ amounts are not yet official but are the best gauge we have so far.

[astrosfanatic]

Couple of quick questions. Are these amounts the official ones we are going with for the Season? If so, are we rounding up to full dollars on all amounts?

My assumption is that these $ amounts are not yet official but are the best gauge we have so far.

round to the nearest dollar. these are pretty dang close if not spot on

[Mudge]

We all get to take part in the Rule 5 - that's not what he's referring to here, so no, that won't change. What Mudge was referring to here was that the inactive teams were at a bit of a disadvantage because most of us had the opportunity to do some September shuffling in preparation for 2012, whereas the abandoned teams didn't get to shuffle their deadweight. He's basically just giving those teams a chance to make up for the missed late-season shuffling moves before we enter into the roster-setting and rule 5 period.

Thanks for clarifying this for puhpow. We all do the Rule 5 draft in March

[LarryBud]

round to the nearest dollar. these are pretty dang close if not spot on

Got it. Round up if .5 or more and round down if .4 or less.

[Cubs Fan]

3 players selecting...

Prince Fielder
Ryan Madision
Kerry Wood

For draft..

[Mudge]

3 players selecting...

Prince Fielder
Ryan Madision
Kerry Wood

For draft..

You can't take Fielder (he is on my team).

You can take any FA on the ESPN site (not just players who are MLB free agents).

[Cubs Fan]

It says I need to create an account, Do i have to do so to view this?

[Mudge]

It says I need to create an account, Do i have to do so to view this?

I would say so....

[Mudge]

puhpow has dropped out.

I will be searching for another owner to replace him.

[LarryBud]

Do we need to make the league on No Trade/Movement status while we find two owners now that LTV also has dropped out?

[Mudge]

Do we need to make the league on No Trade/Movement status while we find two owners now that LTV also has dropped out?

This seems like a good idea.

I'm sorry about puhpow and LTVdude. We recruited them from RotoWire itself, but clearly they did not want to buy into the "culture" of the league, as WilsonC so eloquently put it.

I have sent out invites to sjnemeth3, SHK, and Mr. Baseball. First come, first served. The teams available are:

The Former Orioles
The Former Giants
Mudge's Brewers (I'm willing to give this team up if someone wants the Brewers, and I'll take another team).

I'm as competitive as the next guy, but I also like a challenge. I'm in it for the fun, not the bragging rights -- and it will definitely be more fun without the two of them.

In the meantime:

Cubs Fan: You need to accept the invite over at ESPN.
DieHard: you need to send me your e-mail address so that I can send you an invite.
Outfield Grass: you should change your team name from Red Sox to Mariners, so that we all remember your HOME team.


Thanks for your continuing support.

[LarryBud]

I would like to say something for our new owners- Cubs Fan, DieHard, and Outfield Grass. I hope the issues with puhpow and LTVdude do not taint your perspective and enjoyment of the league. I was new to BN last year when I joined this league. It was a bit overwhelming at first but once I figured it out, I loved it. It is different than any other fantasy league that I had been a part of before but in a very good way. It really developed a fun atmosphere. I did not come back to this league this year simply because I won last year but also because I had such a good time. I believe if you buy into the quirkiness of this league, you can have a blast, get to know some really great people, and maybe even compete when others may think you won't.

Anyway, that is my two cents worth (.5 cents after taxes). I hope you guys continue to be active and have a blast. Please bear with us as we try to get more owners. I promise people will want to talk trade with you and look at what will be mutually beneficial to your teams and theirs. Sometimes deals get done later as Spring Training is in full swing.

Larry "Bud" Litle

[sjnemeth3]

Are teams still open, or have you filled the slots already?

[Mudge]

Are teams still open, or have you filled the slots already?

You got it. Here's your team, if you want them:

The Former Giants
C J.P. Arencibia, Tor
1B Daric Barton, Oak
2B Jemile Weeks, Oak
3B Alex Rodriguez, NYY
SS Stephen Drew, Ari
MI Asdrubal Cabrera, Cle
CI Pablo Sandoval, SF
LF Aubrey Huff, SF
CF Carlos Beltran,
RF Ryan Ludwick, Pit
OF Shane Victorino, Phi
UT Jayson Werth, Was
B Chris Young, Ari
B Seth Smith, Col

P Tim Lincecum, SF
P Ryan Madson, Phi
P Aaron Harang, SD
SP Justin Masterson, Cle
SP Michael Pineda, Sea
SP Josh Collmenter, Ari
RP Brian Wilson, SF
RP Javier Lopez, SF
RP Sergio Romo, SF
B Matt Cain, SF
B Jonathan Sanchez, SF

[sjnemeth3]

This team kind of makes me cry, but I'll give her a shot. It'll be a fun challenge.

[Mudge]

This team kind of makes me cry, but I'll give her a shot. It'll be a fun challenge.

It's tough, I know, but you do get three freebies off the ESPN free agent list.

You should have an invite in your e-mail soon.

[DieHard]

Well this is my first attempt at a fantasy league and I am so hoping that I do not need to be online like 3+ times a day for this as I do not have internet at home yet, just moved, and I do have 4 kids and a demanding job. Other than that I seem to be enjoying this experience.....so far lol:wink:

[Mudge]

Well this is my first attempt at a fantasy league and I am so hoping that I do not need to be online like 3+ times a day for this as I do not have internet at home yet, just moved, and I do have 4 kids and a demanding job. Other than that I seem to be enjoying this experience.....so far lol:wink:

From here on in, it's pretty straightforward, and the only time you really need to pay attention (say once a day) is during the Rule 5 draft in early March.

[Mudge]

It is 3:26 Thursday afternoon, January 12, 2012

Here are the things that need to be done in the league at this point:


Mr. Baseball: Sign up at ESPN. Invite sent


Mr. Baseball: Select HOME team (aka affiliate team).


Cubs Fan: Sign up at ESPN. Invite sent. Change name of your team


Cubs Fan: Select three ESPN free agents to replace three undesirable players currently on your roster (not Prince Fielder).


sjnemeth3: Select three ESPN free agents to replace three undesirable players currently on your roster.


astrosfanatic: Can you run the RotoWire values at 70%/30%, rounded off to full dollars?


All owners: if you have not already done so, vote on DL/salary cap question (see post #47 http://baseballnation.net/showthread.php?4384-Dynasty-League-Rules-and-Rosters-2012/page5)

[Cubs Fan]

Select last Rafel Furcal, and I have joined ESPN and accepted invatation.

[Mudge]

Select last Rafel Furcal, and I have joined ESPN and accepted invatation.

Great. Cubs Fan, who took over the Dodgers -- takes Furcal, Ryan Madson, and Kerry Wood in the two-team supplementary draft.

Just waiting on sjnemeth3, who took over the Giants to select his three freebies from the ESPN free agent list.

[astrosfanatic]

Ryan MAdson is on the Giants

[Mudge]

Ryan MAdson is on the Giants

Yeah, I just noticed that too.

CF. Go to the ESPN site and click on "add player". You'll see who is available.

[astrosfanatic]

Official player values are posted.

[Mudge]

Official player values are posted.

Great. Here's the link: http://baseballnation.net/showthread.php?4416-Player-Values-2012

Thank you.

Braun: $11 (he might be quite a bargain if he wins his appeal).

[WilsonC]

Or even if he doesn't...

Currently sitting at 247 for the Braves.

[LarryBud]

Rangers are currently at 251 as my roster is currently set. If the Rangers sign Yu Darvish ($12- for a rookie pitcher from Japan - highway robbery), I will have to make some decisions or trades.

[Mudge]

Mudge's Brewers have a little wiggle room, coming in at $211 ($149 hitting and $62 pitching).

[Cubs Fan]

Yeah, I just noticed that too.

CF. Go to the ESPN site and click on "add player". You'll see who is available.

Okay, I'll look soon..

[astrosfanatic]

Mudge's Brewers have a little wiggle room, coming in at $211 ($149 hitting and $62 pitching).

Rotowire was exceptionally thrifty in their values on some of the better Brewers. Marcum at $1, Greinke at $8 and Braun at $11 are all way low if you ask me. Braun is only missing a third of the season, so i would have thought they would take his normal $30 price tag and shaved off a third. You lucked out this year.

[Mudge]

Rotowire was exceptionally thrifty in their values on some of the better Brewers. Marcum at $1, Greinke at $8 and Braun at $11 are all way low if you ask me. Braun is only missing a third of the season, so i would have thought they would take his normal $30 price tag and shaved off a third. You lucked out this year.

Yeah, I was surprised at the Marcum snub. Clearly, the pundits think (and with some justification) that the Brewers will win a good deal fewer games this season, and therefore the pitchers will come up short in at least one category.

[WilsonC]

Rotowire was exceptionally thrifty in their values on some of the better Brewers. Marcum at $1, Greinke at $8 and Braun at $11 are all way low if you ask me. Braun is only missing a third of the season, so i would have thought they would take his normal $30 price tag and shaved off a third. You lucked out this year.

I was thinking the same. Hey Mudge, wanna trade Michael Cuddyer for Ryan Braun? As a $17 player, Cuddyer is clearly the better option! :biggrin:

[LarryBud]

I am low on funds and I still got bargains- Aroldis Chapman, Cin, Neftali Feliz, Tex, and Kevin Gregg, Bal are all $1 players. I know that Chapman did not come on at the level they hoped last year, Feliz is becoming a starter, and Gregg is well Gregg but really $1. Not that I am complaining but I really don't get it.

[Mudge]

It is 3:26 Thursday afternoon, January 12, 2012

Here are the things that need to be done in the league at this point:


Mr. Baseball: Sign up at ESPN. Invite sent.


Mr. Baseball: Select HOME team (aka affiliate team).


Cubs Fan: Sign up at ESPN. Invite sent. Change name of your team


Cubs Fan: Select three ESPN free agents to replace three undesirable players currently on your roster (not Prince Fielder).

sjnemeth3: Select three ESPN free agents to replace three undesirable players currently on your roster.


astrosfanatic: Can you run the RotoWire values at 70%/30%, rounded off to full dollars?

Mr. Baseball, sjnemeth3, DieHard: vote on DL/salary cap question (see post #47 http://baseballnation.net/showthread.php?4384-Dynasty-League-Rules-and-Rosters-2012/page5)


It is Saturday morning.

Note requests in bold. I have sent PMs as well.

By the way, I have 1 more potential owner who wants in. If someone is having second thoughts about participating, PLEASE let me know. I want to get this settled.

[OutfieldGrass]

Now that the values are out should I just post players I want to take off my 40 man roster in this thread?

[Mudge]

Now that the values are out should I just post players I want to take off my 40 man roster in this thread?

There's a bit of time before that is officially due (a little over a month). Nevertheless, you can establish your 25-man ESPN roster anytime you want.

For example, several of us have figured out the salaries of our teams as currently configured, but we are all still allowed to make changes up until about March 1.

[Cubs Fan]

Just to let you know Mudge, I am still looking at the free agents for the draft

[Mudge]

Just to let you know Mudge, I am still looking at the free agents for the draft
OK. But this is something I don't want to delay for much longer.

[OutfieldGrass]

What do I do for players not on the ESPN player list but on my home team 40 man roster?

[astrosfanatic]

What do I do for players not on the ESPN player list but on my home team 40 man roster?

They just remain as free agents in the ESPN league. All owners (myself especially :wink:) need to just pay attention when we are adding players.

[Cubs Fan]

Select Carlos Lee for that supplyment draft

[Cubs Fan]

Me and Astrosfanfactic have reached the following deal.
I Recieve
Miguel Cabrera
Johnny Cueto
Dan Haren

for
Astro Recieves
Logan Morrison
Clayton Kershaw
Jose Valverde

[Mudge]

Select Carlos Lee for that supplyment draft

Whom on your current roster does Lee replace?

You do have a total of three picks-- you have selected one (Carols Lee); who are your other two choices? And whom do they replace? You also previously selected Furcal and Wood. If you want to keep those, fine, but you need to tell me whom they replace on your current roster.


Me and Astrosfanfactic have reached the following deal.
I Recieve
Miguel Cabrera
Johnny Cueto
Dan Haren

for
Astro Recieves
Logan Morrison
Clayton Kershaw
Jose Valverde
I'll approve this after you select your two other free agents (if you want them).

[astrosfanatic]

I'll approve this after you select your two other free agents (if you want them).


awww Mudge....don't make me wait :) ....i guess i confirm the trade as long as Cubs fan makes his other selections? :)

[LarryBud]

Very nice trade.

[Cubs Fan]

Hmmm, I (if it's okay) want to pick another 2 besides Wood and Madson, but Carlos Lee repleces Raul Ibanez, but will start. Going to look at ESPN free agents RIGHT now.

[Cubs Fan]

Select Kyle Loshe and Matt Harrison for supplyment draft

[astrosfanatic]

Very nice trade.

yeah, when you wouldnt give me Jennings :aargh4:, this was the next best thing...i think it works well for the both of us. i am more than happy with Kershaw and Hamels, and i have Votto still

[Cubs Fan]

Yeah, I am happy to recieve Miguel Cabbrea and Dan Haren also.

[LarryBud]

yeah, when you wouldnt give me Jennings :aargh4:, this was the next best thing...i think it works well for the both of us. i am more than happy with Kershaw and Hamels, and i have Votto still

Yeah, Jennings is one of my prize players. I would have a difficult time giving him up. You don't know how close I was to a deal with you but could not pull the trigger.

[Mudge]

Select Kyle Loshe and Matt Harrison for supplyment draft

That's great, BUT WHO do they replace?

[WilsonC]

Also, Harrison is a Ranger, and thus property of LarryBud

[LarryBud]

Also, Harrison is a Ranger, and thus property of LarryBud

Thank you. I just noticed that Cubs Fan selected Harrison. I know that he is not on my 25 man roster yet but I still have rights to him and he is in my plans to be on my 25 man roster before the 25 man roster is solidified.

[Cubs Fan]

They replace David Hernadez and Jake Arvirtia

[Mudge]

They replace David Hernadez and Jake Arvirtia
Wait. You cannot take Harrison. He is the property of the Texas Rangers (LarryBud's Rangers).

[Mudge]

NOTE to ALL:

You cannot select players from another owners HOME (affiliate) team EXCEPT during the Rule 5 Draft in March.

Players from the following teams are off limits:

Brewers
Rangers
Braves
Marlins
White Sox
Orioles
Giants
Phillies
Mariners
Cubs

[Cubs Fan]

Okay, once agian I will look at the list on ESPN.

[Mudge]

Okay, once agian I will look at the list on ESPN.

You have until Sunday at 8pm ET to complete this selection.

[OutfieldGrass]

I made a couple moves that keep me under the salary cap. Do I need to post those here?

[Mudge]

I made a couple moves that keep me under the salary cap. Do I need to post those here?

You can drop anyone you want, but remember, you cannot add anyone yet (except a player on your home team). Please record all your drops over here: http://baseballnation.net/showthread.php?4384-Dynasty-League-Rules-and-Rosters-2012/page6

[astrosfanatic]

it might be too late to do this, but i was thinking we might do a minor league draft for minor leaguers only that could be kept free of charge and then called up as they might be called up in the Majors.....This way, since we have shallow rosters as is, we would be able to have 'prospects' without having to use a roster spot on them.....food for thought....we could do it right after the Rule V draft and we wouldn't miss a beat...i have commonly seen minor league rosters of 5 used in dynasty leagues....thoughts?

[LarryBud]

We do have minor leaguers- from our home teams. Now I am not against adding extra ones not from our home teams but that might be too much.

[Baseballnum3er0]

I like the idea of having a separate draft to allow us to have 'prospects'. It allows us to have prospects off our home teams without burning a bench spot and makes it less of a rush to add the remaining prospects as they get called up.

[Mudge]

it might be too late to do this, but i was thinking we might do a minor league draft for minor leaguers only that could be kept free of charge and then called up as they might be called up in the Majors.....This way, since we have shallow rosters as is, we would be able to have 'prospects' without having to use a roster spot on them.....food for thought....we could do it right after the Rule V draft and we wouldn't miss a beat...i have commonly seen minor league rosters of 5 used in dynasty leagues....thoughts?

It is something I have given some thought to, but right now, I'm trying to settle on whether we are going to have a league, or at least enough active owners to constitute a legitimate league.

Mr. Baseball and sjnemeth3 are already inactive; neither has been posted in almost two weeks, and neither has responded to my PMs and e-mails.

I will be looking for new owners, and I guess I will have to put together some kind of an entrance test from here on in.

[Cubs Fan]

So, I'm sorry for the inactivdey the last few days. What's happened?

[DieHard]

I am in still as in as can be. Was hoping someone would be wanting a trade or something by now. Trying to decide what to do with V Martinez at this point in time.

[Mudge]

So, I'm sorry for the inactivdey the last few days. What's happened?

Not too much. The deadline passed for free agent moves, so whoever is on your roster now is set.

In fact, I suggest everyone check his roster to make sure I got all the trades: For further information, see: Rules and rosters: http://baseballnation.net/showthread...d-Rosters-2012

There's not a whole lot for us to do except begin to construct our 25-man rosters based on the RotoWire values (see: Player Values: http://baseballnation.net/showthread...er-Values-2012).

The due date for those rosters is FEBRUARY 15. Any player not on a roster after that is eligible to be drafted (at his RotoWire value) in the Rule 5 draft -- this includes unprotected players on your HOME team.

If you have any questions, please ask here. Knowing the rules, regulations, and deadlines is the explicit responsibility of each and every owner.

[Mr. Baseball]

I'm working with my 25-man roster. Should have it finished by Friday.

[Mudge]

I'm working with my 25-man roster. Should have it finished by Friday.

We don't need your $260 roster yet. That deadline is Feb 15. But you can enter it when you want -- that's up to you.

[Mudge]

NOTE PLEASE: The only official rosters right now are those posted here: http://baseballnation.net/showthread.php?4384-Dynasty-League-Rules-and-Rosters-2012/page6. TRIPLE CHECK THEM TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE CORRECT.

Forget the ESPN rosters right now -- I will have to change them anyway.

And, at this point, if you miss a notice on this board, that's too bad.

[klwalk]

If you have an opening great, participation will not be an issue for me

[DieHard]

Okay Mudge can I just openly drop players from my roster? If yes then is there a salary penalty or something of the sort?

[Mudge]

Okay Mudge can I just openly drop players from my roster? If yes then is there a salary penalty or something of the sort?

Again, please note that you can drop anyone you want from your roster with no penalty. You can only pick up players from your HOME team (who, of course, are not already on another team's roster).

Also note: Do NOT do anything on ESPN yet. The only official rosters at this point are here on Baseball Nation.

[Mr. Baseball]

I guess I still don't understand the whole dynasty league system. I've never tried a Dynasty League before, and it will take some adjustment. Those of you that have sent me trade proposals, just hang tight until I can get my feet set.

With that said, here are a few questions I have after reading over the rules....

#1: What is the HOME TEAM and affiliates?

#2: How exactly does the Rule 5 Draft work, and what do I need to do to prepare for it?

#3: Anything else I should be aware of that is not included in the rulebook..

[astrosfanatic]

With that said, here are a few questions I have after reading over the rules....

#1: What is the HOME TEAM and affiliates?

You pick any MLB team to associate your fantasy team with, and only you are allowed to add/drop players from that team onto your fantasy team. Let's say you pick the Angels. You would be able to add Bobby Abreu to your roster, but other teams could not because he is an Angel. You would not be able to add Albert Pujols because he is already on DieHard's roster. Basically your home team allows you to protect prospects and players on that team from other fantasy owners picking them up.

#2: How exactly does the Rule 5 Draft work, and what do I need to do to prepare for it?

Once everyone declares their 25-man roster, ALL other players are left to be drafted in the Rule V draft. ALL players, even players from your home team, can be drafted in the Rule V Draft. So let's say you dont add Abreu to your 25-man roster after all. I could then draft him to my team because you didnt have him on your 25-man roster.

#3: Anything else I should be aware of that is not included in the rulebook....

If you have any questions, feel free to ask. We all understand that this league is not simple, and has it's own little oddities. There's no such thing as a dumb question, just dumb people. You don't strike me as one of those.

[Mudge]

^^ What he said. Your HOME team is the Orioles (recall that I offered the Brewers to you and am still happy if you want to take them). All up-and-coming Orioles are your property UNLESS they are (a) already for any reason -- by trade or last year's Rule 5 Draft -- on another team in our league, or (b) eventually taken by another team in our Rule 5 Draft thjis year because you did not put them on your 25-man roster (due Feb 15).

The idea behind this was emotional: some of us have a favorite team, a team we love to support. So, why not take that as our HOME team, so that the majority of our players are on a team we root for anyway? This is because one of the things I have heard in condemnation of fantasy baseball is that owners feel crummy rooting for guys they don't like.

I know you are a Brewers fan. That's why I offered them to you so you could control all the up-and-coming Brewers. If you want them, they are yours.

HOWEVER, as you note, many owners in our league have NOT selected their favorite team as their HOME team (astrosfanatic selected the Marlins; WilsonC -- ostensibly a Blue Jays fan -- took the Braves). These owners have their reasons, of course, but far be it from me to know exactly what those reasons are...:veryhappy:

[Mudge]

BIG NEWS: We have a 10th owner!

Welcome aboard Vertigo O.

In order for this to work, I will be making some changes in the rosters. As per our agreement (confirmed by most of the returning owners), I will take over the GIANTS, Mr. Baseball will become the new owner of the BREWERS, and Vertigo O gets the ORIOLES.

I will be taking two of my players with me (Fielder and Tulowitzki), I get one more free agent, and I will be picking up a new HOME team. Bear with me as I figure that one out.

For his part, Mr. Baseball gets 2 free agents to replace Fielder and Tulo.

ESPN is reconstructing right now in preparation for the 2012 season, so we are going to have to do a lot of cross-checking of current rosters to select free agents who are actually available. And I must declare my HOME team before that anyway.

I do recall suggesting that we should consider possibly offering new home teams to returning owners, in part because we were restructuring the league. My feeling is that we can do that this year, but that HOME teams should have a time requirement (3 years?)

What say you all?

1. New HOME teams for 2012?
2. Three year time requirement for HOME teams

Post here.

[astrosfanatic]

What say you all?

1. New HOME teams for 2012?
2. Three year time requirement for HOME teams
Post here.

those are both fine by me

[Baseballnum3er0]

I like the idea of being able to switch home teams this year and adding a 3 year requirement to keeping our teams.

[LarryBud]

Either way works for me. I have no plans on changing teams but then again, I am not opposed to others changing this year. But if we do, then there should be a minimum time to keep them.

[Mudge]

Either way works for me. I have no plans on changing teams but then again, I am not opposed to others changing this year. But if we do, then there should be a minimum time to keep them.

Three years seem good to you?

[WilsonC]

That sounds reasonable to me (both suggestions)

[Mudge]

OK. Let's do it.

Mudge's Giants are now Mudge's Blue Jays (among other things, to celebrate the Rogers Centre going to grass this season).

[Mr. Baseball]

I can't do much until ESPN lets me back into the league page. Hopefully that happens soon..

[astrosfanatic]

i would like to take the Rockies!

[WilsonC]

OK. Let's do it.

Mudge's Giants are now Mudge's Blue Jays (among other things, to celebrate the Rogers Centre going to grass this season).

A fine choice!

[Mudge]

A fine choice!

I thought so.


i would like to take the Rockies!

What are you going to call yourself the astrockfish?


I can't do much until ESPN lets me back into the league page. Hopefully that happens soon..

They give no timeline either. We're all waiting.

[astrosfanatic]

What are you going to call yourself the astrockfish?

Rockiestros has a nice ring to it :)

[LarryBud]

Three years seem good to you?

Three sounds fine to me Mudge.

[Mudge]

OK. Unless I hear otherwise, your current HOME team is your HOME team for the next three years. (2012-2014).

WilsonC: Braves
astrosfanatic: Rockies
LarryBud: Rangers
Mudge: Blue Jays
BaseballNum3er0: White Sox
Die Hard: Cubs
Outfield Grass: Mariners
Cuns Fan: Phillies
Mr. Baseball: Brewers
Vertigo O: Orioles

A REMINDER: there is a backup site for this Dynasty League at http://baseballtalk.freeforums.org/dynasty-league-2012-f4.html. I know several of you are registered over there, and I urge the rest of you to do so as well. It is not intended to replace Baseball Nations but to serve as a backup just in case something goes awry here (which as you know, has happened from time to time).

As of this morning (Sunday, February 5), ESPN fantasy is not back online. I recall their doing this last year, but I cannot remember how long they took.

In the meantime, we can all start on our INITIAL ROSTERS, as several of you have done.

Thanks.

[Mr. Baseball]

So who won the league last year?

[Mudge]

So who won the league last year?
It was a four-way fight (Mudge, WilsonC, astrosfanatic, LarryBud) all the way through September, but LarryBud's Rangers pulled it out.

[Baseballnum3er0]

Now that I can officially switch my affiliation, I would like to switch my affiliation to the Padres(I searched the roster page and Alonso didn't come up as owned but if he is owned I would like the Royals). Also since I did pick up Thornton before I switched affiliation but after the season I would assume for the sake of fairness he should just be put back and be rule 5 eligible.

On the ESPN front just random searches through various not credible sources speculating it should open back up this week, but I go through this every year and they usually seem to be close just not always right.

[Mudge]

Now that I can officially switch my affiliation, I would like to switch my affiliation to the Padres(I searched the roster page and Alonso didn't come up as owned but if he is owned I would like the Royals). Also since I did pick up Thornton before I switched affiliation but after the season I would assume for the sake of fairness he should just be put back and be rule 5 eligible.

On the ESPN front just random searches through various not credible sources speculating it should open back up this week, but I go through this every year and they usually seem to be close just not always right.

The PADRES it is for you. I was close to taking them myself, what with Alonso available and some of the trades they made over the winter. I agree about Thornton, I'll take him off the roster (and I presume you want to replace him with Alonso)?

[WilsonC]

So based on this, I presume if I switch, I'd have to drop Teheran (added during the offseason), yes?

I'm still weighing a couple teams based on who might be available and the farm systems; I'm down to a few possibilities, but may well end up keeping the Braves.

[Mudge]

So based on this, I presume if I switch, I'd have to drop Teheran (added during the offseason), yes? Yes, that would be fair.

[astrosfanatic]

I'd have to drop Teheran

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[Mr. Baseball]

If ESPN doesn't re-open it's Fantasy Baseball doors by the roster deadline, can we get it extended?

[Mudge]

If ESPN doesn't re-open it's Fantasy Baseball doors by the roster deadline, can we get it extended?

For sure....

[astrosfanatic]

For sure....

rumors have it opening tomorrow....the site is showing my old teams today, which is a step in the right direction. i imagine that means they are close to being done

[Mr. Baseball]

rumors have it opening tomorrow....the site is showing my old teams today, which is a step in the right direction. i imagine that means they are close to being done

I sure hope so! I'm looking forward to getting in the mix. :fing02:

There's no greater challenge than competing against guys like we have at Baseball Nation. The level of knowledge this group has is incredible. I'll be lucky just to stay out of the gutter.

[DieHard]

I sure hope so! I'm looking forward to getting in the mix. :fing02:

There's no greater challenge than competing against guys like we have at Baseball Nation. The level of knowledge this group has is incredible. I'll be lucky just to stay out of the gutter.

Definitely looking forward to this also, and feel the same way. Overall I feel really not-baseball smart on this site sometimes lol :biggrin: But it is a great place to learn more for sure

[Mr. Baseball]

Definitely looking forward to this also, and feel the same way. Overall I feel really not-baseball smart on this site sometimes lol :biggrin: But it is a great place to learn more for sure

Visit some of the others sports forums out there (not naming names), and you'll see just how special Baseball Nation is.