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astrosfanatic
12-22-2011, 11:17 PM
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/12/cubs-planning-complete-and-total-rebuild.html


The Cubs are attempting to deal "most of their valuable assets" before Spring Training begins and "a complete overhaul of the team will definitely happen," two Major League sources tell David Kaplan of CSN Chicago. The impending Sean Marshall-for-Travis Wood trade is the first step in this process, as the Cubs are acquiring a young, controllable, 24-year-old southpaw starter for a 29-year-old reliever who was set to earn $3.1MM in 2012.

They should have started this process a year or two earlier. There are a couple problems that Theo is going to face:

1) Alfonso Soriano: Yeah, he had a decent year last year (for a league average outfielder). The problem is he is being paid All-Star kind of money. He is due 18 million dollars each year until 2014. That's 3 years/54 million dollars left. Nobody is going to take that salary, not even a desperate AL team looking for a DH. They will most likely have to eat over half of that 54 million dollars and take a hit in the quality of prospects they get if they trade him. According to his 1.3 WAR last year, he as worth 5.9 million dollars. So another team might look at that and be willing to pay around 5 million a year for him which leaves 39 million dollars for the Cubs to pay. I doubt that happens, which is why Soriano will be extremely hard to move.

2) Carlos Zambrano: Ignoring his head problems and the difficulty he has with teammates, he might even challenge Soriano for worst contract on the team. He has a full no-trade clause, so if they are able to find a deal he has to approve it. According to Fangraphs, he is owed 18 million in 2012 with a vesting option in 2013 that he is very unlikely to get. The only good thing is that his contract most likely ends this next year. The problem is that he has either been injured or suspended b/c of his antics, and is thus a waste of money. Who knows? Maybe he tires of the Cubs and waives his no-trade clause to be dealt at the deadline. The Cubs will still have to pick up a significant part of his contract to even get a prospect of decent value back in return. Don't hold your breath.

Now both of those issues standing, they are heading in the right direction with a new manager that many people like in Sveum, and they have some good young talent in Castro and Wells.

What they need to do is trade Garza and Dempster. Both of those guys could bring back some good talent. Dempster would be a good guy to trade at the deadline when teams are looking for a reliable veteran SP to help them make that playoff push. Garza would be better off being traded right now so that his new team could get the most value out of him before he hits the FA market.

Signing Fielder would be a step backwards right now for the Cubs. They need to manage their salaries and get rid of the bad money before they start taking risks with long-term contracts.

runningshoes
12-22-2011, 11:34 PM
I wonder if that was the plan when they hired Theo or whether he said this is what we need to do.

astrosfanatic
12-23-2011, 12:45 AM
I wonder if that was the plan when they hired Theo or whether he said this is what we need to do.

i am sure this all would have happened with or without Theo. But this plan works beautifully for Theo. Things like this take time, and we might not know if he screwed up for 6-8 years if he is completely rebuilding...

RickD
02-27-2012, 10:06 AM
Theo Epstein has written a manuscript called The Cubs' Way. It's a thick manual of several hundred pages, to be distributed to team scouts and player-development officials, laying out groundwork that Epstein envisions resulting in a World Series championship, last won by the Cubs in 1908.

This remodeling project should last at least three years.

nebo86
02-27-2012, 10:46 AM
If the Cubs win a World Series or two under Theo's leadership, he will be anointed the "Greatest Executive of all time" by ESPN.

Cubs Fan
02-27-2012, 01:27 PM
He would be. Because it's going to be tough. Hope we can though.

Mr. Baseball
02-27-2012, 04:35 PM
After 103 years, you'd think Cubs fans would be tired of being in rebuilding mode.

DieHard
02-27-2012, 08:25 PM
Yeah pretty much. But there have been a few good years, the 3 NLC Titles in 5 years anyone?

Cubs Fan
02-27-2012, 08:39 PM
Yes, but those good ones are good, but most likely the next ones will be horrible.

yankeebiscuitfan
02-28-2012, 03:58 PM
After 103 years, you'd think Cubs fans would be tired of being in rebuilding mode.

I would be tired of a rebuilding mode of 103 years. :D

I hope that they will succeed. I'd like to see the Cubs win it all for once in my life.

Cubs Fan
02-28-2012, 04:46 PM
Well to tell you the truth, people have tried to fix this.... Such as Dusty Baker.... Last year he was with us was DREADFUL.

WilsonC
02-28-2012, 04:52 PM
After 103 years, you'd think Cubs fans would be tired of being in rebuilding mode.

On the flip side after 103 years, what's another three or four?

Mr. Baseball
02-29-2012, 09:32 PM
I hope that they will succeed. I'd like to see the Cubs win it all for once in my life.

I disagree with you here. The Cubs losing and proclaiming "maybe next year" has become part of baseball tradition.

Not only that, but I love watching the Cubs suffer. ;)

nebo86
02-29-2012, 09:44 PM
I'd like to see the Cubs play the Indians in the World Series. The two longest droughts on the line, and Cleveland fans would not like to see their Indians claim the longest drought.

Mr. Baseball
02-29-2012, 09:45 PM
I'd like to see the Cubs play the Indians in the World Series. The two longest droughts on the line, and Cleveland fans would not like to see their Indians claim the longest drought.

How long is the Indians drought? I would have assumed the Texas Rangers to be #2.

nebo86
02-29-2012, 09:56 PM
How long is the Indians drought? I would have assumed the Texas Rangers to be #2.

The Indians haven't won since 1948, so 63 seasons and counting. The Rangers have been in Texas since 1972, and were formerly the new Washington Senators which entered the league in 1961 as part of MLB's first expansion.